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St. Paul: The Other Twin City

In August, Minneapolis decided it needed a face lift. Now St. Paul wants one, too. The city will pay a Nashville firm $76,000 to help polish its image. Planners hope to have a new slogan, logo, and marketing strategy in place by next May. Any ideas?

95 Reader Comments

ono (not verified)01:14pm
Dec 12

St. Paul: You're less likely to be murdered here than in Minneapolis

sayin' (not verified)01:19pm
Dec 12

isn't frogtown still pretty rough?

MLH01:18pm
Dec 12

St. Paul: We've got hockey and a science museum.

grote (not verified)01:21pm
Dec 12

I'd like to see who has more murders per capita. I seem to hear about shootings on St. Paul's East Side pretty frequently.

TBartel01:32pm
Dec 12

St. Paul has had 15 murders this year. Minneapolis has had 59. Population of St. Paul is 277,000, Minneapolis is 380,000.

So, St. Paul has .054 murders per 1000, Minneapolis has .155 per thousand, or about three times as many per capita.

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tmay (not verified)01:40pm
Dec 12

So I guess the difference is that shooters in Minneapolis have better aim?

Slogan King (not verified)01:42pm
Dec 12

St. Paul: Remember us? Please?

Sloganator (not verified)01:42pm
Dec 12

St. Paul: Civilization does not end when you cross the river!

Slogarama (not verified)01:43pm
Dec 12

St. Paul: Come on down! Just not after 5pm, that's our bedtime.

Max Sparber  url01:44pm
Dec 12

St. Paul: At dusk, there are more Snoopys in this city than people.

Slogalicious (not verified)01:45pm
Dec 12

St. Paul: Grand Ave is nice, right? Guys? Right?

Slogadan Milosevic (not verified)01:46pm
Dec 12

St. Paul: Let's pretend Midway never happened.

Blogging Teacher (not verified)01:48pm
Dec 12

St. Paul: The other white meat....

St. Paul: The city of virtue to Minneapolis' sin.

Sloganing Teacher (not verified)01:49pm
Dec 12

St. Paul: Is it too late to be Pig's Eye?

Saloth Sar (not verified)01:50pm
Dec 12

St. Paul: Ample Parking!

St. Paul: Just Like a Real City!

St. Paul: Designed by Drunken Irishmen, ya Shite!

Max Sparber  url01:54pm
Dec 12

St. Paul: No, we're not in Wisconsin; we're your god damn capitol, you little shits.

Slogganth Sar (not verified)01:56pm
Dec 12

St. Paul: Come get some Dome! (we've got two!)

kwatt02:15pm
Dec 12

Get Lost in St. Paul!
(because we don't number or alphabetize our fricking streets)

St. Paul: Gateway to Woodbury

Putting the "E" in 35E. St. Paul.

St. Paul: A River Runs Through It.

St. Paul: Minor League Baseball, Major League Egos

alamn02:27pm
Dec 12
Big Tobacco (not verified)02:43pm
Dec 12

Actually smoking bans have been around in other more civilized parts of the country for a very long time. St Paul is a relative latecomer to the party. Plus didn't Minneapolis ban it before St. Paul?

Saloth Sar (not verified)02:59pm
Dec 12

If Italy and Ireland can have country-wide smoking bans and not erupt in violence, ya'd think we could do it to.

St. Paul: Home of the Coney Island Bar and Other Assorted Anti-Smoking Crazies

St. Paul: North of West St. Paul, South of East St. Paul.

Ahmad Rashad (not verified)03:14pm
Dec 12

St. Paul: Eventually You'll Have To

moe03:22pm
Dec 12

St. Paul: St. Paul was better when Rex was in Mpls

Best thread ever. I want to print it and hang it on my wall.

alamn03:19pm
Dec 12

Actually smoking bans have been around in other more civilized parts of the country for a very long time. St Paul is a relative latecomer to the party. Plus didn't Minneapolis ban it before St. Paul?

If by more civilized parts of the country you mean "Moose Lake, MN," you are correct. However, if you open the link on my post you will see that the last big wave of Minnesota ordinances have their roots in an ordinance authored by St. Paul councilmember Dave Thune. His ordinance was passed twice, and vetoed twice by Mayor Randy Kelly, who later got a "message from the voters."

The next big wave started today in Carlton County. Watch for more in Lake, St. Louis, Olmsted counties and the City of Hutchinson.

sayin' (not verified)03:29pm
Dec 12

didn't california ban smoking in bars&restaurants like ... more than ten or fifteen years ago?

alamn03:29pm
Dec 12

Now, back to our subject:

Saint Paul: At night, the domes are bright

It's true. I work near the Capital and the Cathedral, and the sight of both illuminated at night is really beautiful.

mndude03:35pm
Dec 12

HAHA keep the slogans comming guys!

jderusha03:44pm
Dec 12

St. Paul: Home of the Saints... and the sinners.

Raindog66 (not verified)03:44pm
Dec 12

St. Paul: Enjoy a little backseat Nookie with your Pizza!

St. Paul: In a Pig's Eye!

St. Paul: Nobody Worth Killin' Here.

St. Paul: Minneapolis's Slutty Little Sister.

St. Paul: Too Drunk To Fuck!

Bx (not verified)03:22pm
Dec 12

Saint Paul: The Quietest Neighborhood in Minneapolis

Saint Paul: The East is Dead

Saint Paul: Figure Us Out

Saint Paul: Deathplace of Hip

Saint Paul: Bless You

Saint Paul: Snow White People

Saint Paul: The Smaller Campus of the University

Raindog66 (not verified)03:53pm
Dec 12
jderusha03:54pm
Dec 12

Oh my God Raindog, that is the best link ever. And Bx, you are a comedy genius.

Sloganopolis (not verified)03:57pm
Dec 12

St. Paul: It's a "twin" in the sense of Danny DeVito.

alamn03:54pm
Dec 12

St. Paul: More white belts per capita

St. Paul: Hipper than we look

St. Paul: We don't tear down our downtown

mndude04:02pm
Dec 12

St. Paul: We only party when its really really cold

Slogaine for Men (not verified)04:04pm
Dec 12

St. Paul: We don't party because we're really really old

matt  url04:11pm
Dec 12

St. Paul: Gateway to South St. Paul

grote (not verified)04:28pm
Dec 12

I don't know, Raindog, that one @ the bottom is pretty hot...hey, wait a minute the name is Jeremiah Isreal Wilson...is that really a dude?

DouglasG  url04:52pm
Dec 12

St. Paul: My Mom says its cool!

Slogamom (not verified)04:53pm
Dec 12

St. Paul: Its mom says it's cool too!

C.L. Cooley (not verified)05:13pm
Dec 12

St. Paul: So boring even St. Jude has given up on us

Saloth Sar (not verified)05:20pm
Dec 12

I was totally going to post the St. Paul Prostitution link but raindog beat me to it. I love that site. It's actually really old. Like from the olden internets days. I think I started checking it out back in '94 or something.

St. Paul: Broadcasting Your Shame with Technology!

St. Paul: Our Squadcar Trunks are Indian-Free!

St. Paul: No Pain - No Gain!

imagreen05:45pm
Dec 12

St. Paul - Journalist of the Jesus movement

richg06:31pm
Dec 12

St. Paul: That much closer to New York City!

eshaffer06:26pm
Dec 12

St Paul: Don't bother--it's just like Europe.
(True story: A Minneapolis friend once worked for a company owned by Germans. A colleague came over from Germany to work with him for a few months. She brought a guidebook with her, to help her make enjoyable use of her free time. Our friend suggested that she visit Saint Paul. The book says not to bother, she told him. Its supposed to be just like Europe.)

mulad06:43pm
Dec 12

Somehow my train of thought went:

Minneapolis

Mini-apple

Saint Paul

Mini-Paul

The guy who played Mini-Me now becomes Mini-Paul in the big city of Saint Paul, showing off the various landmarks in a dozen kitschy commercials replete with ultra-low camera angles.

Heh

mulad06:47pm
Dec 12

...Actually, maybe he could be a mini-Paul Bunyan. That'd be funny. Kinda.

Big G (not verified)06:56pm
Dec 12

Why in the fuck does Saint Paul needs a facelift?! To whom? The Neo-cons that are coming to town in 08 for which they can throw a KKK hate party and a burning cross in the middle of a DFL town? GET REAL PEOPLE!!!! This is a scam to rip off the local taxpayers on a worthless PR program from city hall!

Elizabeth (not verified)07:04pm
Dec 12

eshaffer--I know some people who had moved here and were told St. Paul was "the Boston of the Midwest." They were from Boston, and I don't think they quite agreed.

B-Man (not verified)08:21pm
Dec 12

C'mon St. Paulites, are we going to take this?

Yeah...I suppose we are. As long as it keeps those Minneapolis pricks on the other side of the river.

The Rat (not verified)08:45pm
Dec 12

St. Paul: Gateway to Southern Minnesota

The Rat (not verified)08:48pm
Dec 12

St. Paul: Home of the Medallion.

cjc  url09:22pm
Dec 12

As long as it keeps those Minneapolis pricks on the other side of the river.

I met a woman on my bus (21 line) a couple years ago who swore to me that she'd never been to St. Paul. She was probably 70 years old and has lived in Minneapolis for 40 years. She said her son has encouraged her to go see it and she thought maybe some day she might.

She didn't seem crazy...

Dennis (not verified)09:51pm
Dec 12

Boston of the midwest? Don't know the reason for that (lots of colleges? nice old buildings?) but I'm from Boston and greatly prefer St Paul to Minneapolis.

Jerry Trooien (not verified)12:52am
Dec 13

St. Paul: Best community boards money can buy!

Mpls Simpleton (not verified)09:07am
Dec 13

St Paul: It's on the same side of the river as Nordeast.

Sloga-I'm out of ideas (not verified)11:11am
Dec 13

St. Paul: It's on the right side of the river!

tmay (not verified)11:14am
Dec 13

do you guys remember when we could tell the difference between big G and raindog?

DouglasG  url11:27am
Dec 13

St. Paul: Straight roads are for wimps.

St. Paul: If you don't know where you're going, you shouldn't be here.

St. Paul: Come for the pizza, stay for the back seat action.

St. Paul: Even 81 year olds can get some lovin'

MunsingW (not verified)11:34am
Dec 13

St. Paul: Coleman-approved.

St. Paul: Kinda smells like your grandmother's house.

St. Paul: We won't make you keep your booze in a paper bag.

St. Paul: Processing Minneapolis sewage for 150 years!

St. Paul: Oh dear god, I'm so alone...

Raindog66 (not verified)11:53am
Dec 13

do you guys remember when we could tell the difference between big G and raindog?

Just because someone USES CAPS does not put the in MY CLASS.

You FASCIST PIG DOG tmay....

Henry Hormann (not verified)12:02pm
Dec 13

(Yawn) typical envy and jealousy from Minneapolitans...

eshaffer12:53pm
Dec 13

MunsingW's "St. Paul: Oh dear god, I'm so alone..." is my fave so far.

DouglasG  url01:27pm
Dec 13

typical envy and jealousy from Minneapolitans

I'm a St Paulite. I kid because I love...

jderusha01:49pm
Dec 13

This is one of the funniest threads I've read in awhile.

Jim (not verified)01:49pm
Dec 13

What happens in St Paul, stays in St Paul. Theoretically speaking.

The Zeppelin (not verified)03:55pm
Dec 13
baker (not verified)04:12pm
Dec 13

Boston of the midwest? Don't know the reason for that (lots of colleges? nice old buildings?) but I'm from Boston and greatly prefer St Paul to Minneapolis.
The Irish people dude....

Um

St. Paul: "Where liberal elitists gather to bitch about stuff."

mnspeak (not verified)04:29pm
Dec 13

Isn't it strange that the majority of highly valued residential property in St. Paul is concentrated on the west end of the city, close to Minneapolis?

Henry Hormann (not verified)04:50pm
Dec 13

That's very bourgeois - congrats again to sophisticated, worldly Minneapolis.

fpolaris (not verified)05:03pm
Dec 13

Rename St. Paul East Minneapolis

fpolaris (not verified)05:04pm
Dec 13

I agree with jderusha, funniest thread in a long while. I especially love
St Paul: Eventually you'll have to

I have to go there for a concert this saturday

:(

DouglasG  url05:10pm
Dec 13

St Paul: At least we're not Maplegrove! (Sorry Jason...)

St Paul: We claim Charles Schultz despite the fact he despised the place.

St Paul: It's ghost town early Saturday mornings!

Connor07:51pm
Dec 13

St. Paul: Not the pretentious one.

fpolaris-I think you mean "West Minneapolis." We have a reputation to uphold over here.

alamn07:42am
Dec 14

Someone is still left at the Pioneer Press who reads MNspeak. Congrats to those MNspeakers whose comments where selected by the nameless MSM type.

alamn08:16am
Dec 14

My mistake. The MSM type has a name: Laura Yuen

My apologies, Ms. Yuen. Glad you enjoy our humble little forum. Come visit us anytime.

not from here (not verified)11:10am
Dec 14

How 'bout:

St. Paul: Home of the Easter Bunny Ban?

phil (not verified)11:25am
Dec 14

St Paul--Shallow fools who need slogans are freezing their asses off at a lifestyle center. Everyone welcome

Sloganopolis (not verified)12:14pm
Dec 14

Sweet! two of mine got put up in the pipress! I'm on my way to anonymous internet noteriety now!

whatnow02:53pm
Dec 14

"Bring Money"

milkin.c03:29pm
Dec 14

St. Paul: Classical sophistication with a twist of lime

CCMEASTON (not verified)05:06pm
Dec 14

With the Cathedral & the Capitol and all the churches, and hospitals named after Saints
Why not the Saintly City

Better than the EVIL CITY MPLS.

claptonian (not verified)01:26am
Dec 15

"You don't have to rob St. Peter to play St. Paul!"
"You say COLD like it's a bad thing!"
"Much more accomodating than Minneapolis. Just ask Dillinger, and Ma Barker, and..."

J Arch (not verified)05:25am
Dec 15

Medallion City (Get more sponsors for the medallion and raise the prize money, or offer a larger prize for people who register from out of town and find the medallion).

And, Saint Paul cannot be south of East Saint Paul. There is no East St Paul, unless you are referring to the town in Manitoba, Canada.

Laura Llindholm (not verified)08:42am
Dec 15

St Paul--the evil twin.

Tom Hove (not verified)09:36am
Dec 15

St Paul a Capital idea!

CFinn (not verified)11:23am
Dec 15

Surprised nobody borrowed mine:

St. Paul - The hardest luck saint of them all.

jmullan12:40pm
Dec 15

Saint Paul: You have to wake up somewhere.
Saint Paul: Where you don't have to be cool.
Saint Paul: When we were your age we thought the same thing.
Saint Paul: When you're ready to settle down.
Saint Paul: Try a murder someplace new!
Saint Paul: If you can't be in the city you love...
Saint Paul: In bed by eight is great!
Saint Paul: You can still get to Minneapolis, even if you live here.

Saloth Sar (not verified)05:27pm
Dec 15

There is no "East St. Paul", but there very defintitely is "east" St. Paul, also know as the Eastside, or Phalen-corridor, or perhaps Payne Ave. Also known as the land that is cannot be reached from anywhere else. Well, at least it was until the recently built the Phalen extension and 35E exit.

There are several neighborhoods in St. Paul that are very tricky to get to unless you know exactly how to get there. Like the Indian Mounds Park neighborhood. Little lands that time forgot.

go4girl05:34pm
Dec 15

St. Paul offers the Big City environment, with a small town atmosphere.

(Now if St. Paul could at least open there businesses up on weekends)

Toring09:47pm
Dec 16

St Paul: Our downtown has buildings!
Minneapolis: Surface parking lots downtown are sexy!

St Paul: City of mystery and romance.
Minneapolis: A cold old broad.

St Paul: Tree-lined streets and ample parks.
Minneapolis: Trash-filled streets and ample lots to park.

Dik (not verified)01:45pm
Dec 19

St. Paul: A great place for a weekday breakfast

I think maybe St. Paul is the Boston of the Midwest because of the streets. designed by drunken Irish with no clear direction or logical name. Plus there's the prostitutes

colonel_aaron (not verified)07:40am
Dec 20

St. Paul: If you get drunk in a city and no ones around to witness it...

KC (not verified)05:08pm
Dec 26

For the people who never leave Minneapolis here is a guide. West St. Paul, North St. Paul and South St. Paul are there own cities and not part of St. Paul. West St. Paul is actually south of St. Paul. South St. Paul is south east and North St. Paul is North East. East St. Paul is actually part of St. Paul but is called East St. Paul becuase it is east of the river even though it is more north.

Another Thune (not verified)11:29pm
Feb 7

SaintYESplease!!

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