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The Strib covers the geocaching scene today. Our local chapter, Minnesota Geocaching Association, has about 600 members. Bill Roehl (president of MnGCA and garcia to us) gets the story's coda quote: "My entire friendship base is somehow related to caching." Do we have other cachers here?

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garcia  url01:22pm
Jan 10

From the MnGCA Forum discussion about this topic:

But the following quote is somewhat sad if it is true:

"Said Bill Roehl: "My entire friendship base is somehow related to caching.""

Is it sad that I am enthusiastic, immersed, and involved in something that I find enjoyable? Everyone believes that their job should be that way (which I personally don't agree with) so what's wrong w/your hobby being so closely connected with your friendship base?

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Darlene Prois, the "Strib" reporter that covered our WeekNIGHT Caching outing, was very interested in the social aspects of geocaching -- especially in the suburbs...

Being a relatively new transplant to Minnesota, geocaching really helped me meet new people that were just as enthusiastic as I was about a common interest. I mentioned that our group was "very welcoming" to new players to which Darlene replied, "everyone that I cover says almost the exact same thing."

Any of you involved in an activity that you meet new people and feel that you are the most welcoming group ever?

hipmn01:53pm
Jan 10

I'm look for letterboxes, which, with its use of clues and simple maps, as well as its lack of technical sophistication, is like geocaching for pirates.

s4xton  url01:53pm
Jan 10

I've found 901. I got rather obsessed with it but have toned down since. I was also a Board member of the 2005 MnGCA Board. It can be quite a bit of fun, especially as a bunch of them will take you places in your own neighborhood that you wouldn't otherwise know about.

A real treat when visiting friends out of town as well: Many times in the last couple years a friend that I might be visiting will say "take me geocaching or whatever it is" and then after 5 minutes with my GPS and laptop we're off to some place in his or her neighborhood only a mile or so away... and I'm the tour guide in their city to some place new to the both of us. It also serves to be a good break if you're on a long road trip in the middle of Saskatchewan, for example. :-)

gerg02:29pm
Jan 10

I've recently gotten interested in this. I still haven't gone out and tried it, but as nerdy as it might appear, I think anything that serves as an excuse to go hang out and explore in the woods is a Good Thing.

I've also got a few ideas for hiding places... :)

King Boreas (not verified)03:21pm
Jan 10

sounds like a good time

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magnetbox04:17pm
Jan 10

Seems like somehow you could tie together geocaching with the hunt for the winter carnival medallion in a very cool way.

garcia  url04:21pm
Jan 10

Seems like somehow you could tie together geocaching with the hunt for the winter carnival medallion in a very cool way.

There are a number of Medallion Hunter crossovers at the end of every season. I even know a couple of geocachers (less it seems) that have become hardcore medallion hunters.

Currently it works well when a random passerby asks what you are doing... "Hunting for the medallion." :)

Bx (not verified)04:36pm
Jan 10

It's fun with the addition of bicycle or dog!

Pat (not verified)05:39pm
Jan 10

My dad wants me to try it with him. I remain unconvinced.

patrick08:04pm
Jan 10

Are their cache's around the cities and surrounding suburbs at all? If I'm broke and without any sort of GPS technology or the means to purchase some, can I still join a group and see how it's all done. Is there drinking involved?

My fingers are crossed for the drinking, but seriously, if anybody feels like answering these questions that would be great. It sounds like a blast.

garcia  url08:29pm
Jan 10

Are their cache's around the cities and surrounding suburbs at all? If I'm broke and without any sort of GPS technology or the means to purchase some, can I still join a group and see how it's all done. Is there drinking involved?

Looking to meet some cachers, find some caches (no GPS required, we have more than enough on hand) then check out this thread.

We're meeting up to do two geocaches in Roseville and then heading over to Joe Senser's for some food and *drinks*!

Anyone is welcome to join us.

s4xton  url08:26pm
Jan 10

Patrick: in this part of the MnGCA forum usually someone picks up the duty for organizing a "WeekNIGHT" caching event on generally wednesday evenings. It's generally some place in the suburbs and always followed by beer. Sometimes it's 4 people and its quiet, and sometimes it's 15-20 people and a huge party. Details for an upcoming one are usually in one of the top threads. I've been on a number of them (and know most of the regulars) and it's always friendly people and a fun diversion if you want something random to do on a Wednesday evening.

hooha10:28pm
Jan 10

I predict a GeoCacher will find the Winter Carnival Medallion.

jeanfid10:45am
Jan 11

i'm a geocacher. just heard arguments at a recent park board meeting to make sure public works employees don't plunder these treasures thinking they're garbage. in the suburbs it's become somewhat of an issue if located in parks, or on public property.

gerg11:36am
Jan 11

i'm not anti-geocaching in any way, like i said i think it sounds like fun. hope to try it sometime.

on the other hand, i have heard it described as "organized littering." i think it needs to be done with some restraint. for a lot of the public, finding a tupperware container that other people happen to know is there isn't much different than finding a discarded can of mountain dew.

jeanfid11:45am
Jan 11

no it really isn't any different. the searching out in nature part is a cool way to connect the nerd with the naturalist (if not connected already), but trouble starts when cachers want to bury stuff in, say, a restored prairie area, or leave a glass jar under a bridge in the water of a protected trout stream. there should be restraint or some sort of convention for this, but i guess i never really thought about it until now...

Joe (not verified)12:04pm
Jan 11

"no it really isn't any different. the searching out in nature part is a cool way to connect the nerd with the naturalist (if not connected already), but trouble starts when cachers want to bury stuff in, say, a restored prairie area, or leave a glass jar under a bridge in the water of a protected trout stream. there should be restraint or some sort of convention for this, but i guess i never really thought about it until now..."

There are guidelines against burying, using glass containers, and Hiding under bridges so it should Not Be A Worry for you.

Become informed before getting all worried about possibilities that dont exist

jeanfid12:17pm
Jan 11

guess i should've qualified that--conventions that are adhered to. it's come up more than once in scott county.

gerg12:57pm
Jan 11

I wouldn't say just because geocaching.com has a notice on there somewhere saying where what should be buried, the possibility of geocaching being no better than littering "doesn't exist."

Guidelines are super, but I hope the geocaching community (which is obviously quite strong and organized, from the article and this thread) is aware that as it grows (and I would expect it to rather quickly in the years ahead) it needs to be very proactive in instilling good ethics in their membership.

Joe (not verified)01:02pm
Jan 11

Geocaching has evolved for several years now, and will continue to do so.

The ethical issues, as well as most all other concerns are covered in depth within the gc.com forums: http://forums.groundspeak.com/gc/
which are pretty heavily read by cachers across the Nation/World.

Local groups suchs mngca are an extension of that - and also discuss similar concerns.

Remeber, you cant instill ethics into an un-ethical person tho.

garcia  url01:12pm
Jan 11

I wouldn't say just because geocaching.com has a notice on there somewhere saying where what should be buried, the possibility of geocaching being no better than littering "doesn't exist."

I can't speak for other States but here in Minnesota, the geocaching community does go above and beyond the call of duty when a cache is placed in an unacceptable area or has been "archived" (delisted) and hasn't been removed.

I have met with members of both the Three Rivers Park District and the Minnesota DNR and had lengthy discussions with them regarding various issues that were of concern when geocaching originally was in the spotlight (2001/2002).

Three Rivers, for instance, has noticed no negative impact in their parks even though one of their *biggest* concerns in 2002 was the possibility of "cache litter" due to cache owners not picking up cache containers after they were delisted. In fact, the MnGCA Board suggested in December of 2005 that their limit of three caches per park be raised -- while we have no specific number of what the new limit will be it does appear that the numbers will be increased per park when the Three Rivers Board meets in late January to discuss this proposition.

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To reply to jeanfid's comment that it has come up more than once in Scott County -- I'm surprised as there aren't all that many geocaches located in Scott County as Shakopee, Belle Plaine, Savage, and various other towns (minus Prior Lake which has a handful or so) just don't have the park land available to hide caches in (Shakopee is especially limited due to the National Wildlife Refuge running through it).

If someone in Scott County would like to speak to someone point them to me -- I'd be happy to help out in any way I can.

gerg01:25pm
Jan 11

garcia, thanks... that's exactly the kind of information i needed to read. notice my earlier comments: i really think it sounds like fun. i'm glad to hear about such proactive efforts.

cheers.

Kim (not verified)07:57pm
Jan 11

"...I wouldn't say just because geocaching.com has a notice on there somewhere saying where what should be buried, the possibility of geocaching being no better than littering "doesn't exist." "

Just an FYI, but geocaching.com does take it a step beyond posting guidelines for cache placement. Before any cache listing becomes active it is subject to an approval process. Geocaching.com has appointed approvers in charge of specific regions who do their best to make sure that all geocaching guidelines as well as local park guidelines have been met before making the listing active. Some approvers utilize satellite imagery with the coordinates plotted onto photos in order to aid them when appropriate.

As with any system there is always room for improvement. The geocaching community is very aware of how detrimental problem caches can be to the whole sport and many cachers take advantage of a feature called a "should be archived note". This allows cachers who have come across an inappropriate cache to make direct contact with the appropriate approver in order to communicate any problems with the cache and to recommend that it be disabled or removed from the website.

Happy Caching

xbryanx06:42am
Jan 12

We are always on the lookout for new ways to get people excited about cool stuff in science. One of my great coworkers at the Science Museum, Joe, got the great idea of using geocaches as a way to clue people in on cool science research. So check out some of our Science Buzz geocaches, floating around the area in various places.

John (not verified)08:00pm
Jan 17

Great article. Nice to see some positive exposure to this great activity.

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