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I have no clue why but I just noticed at the local Cub that the Hollywood Video Kiosk is gone and now it is a shitty redbox one.
Redbox is the same price but it has a much smaller selection and you need to bring back the movies by 7pm instead of midnite.
I think this sucks but it's not too big a deal, I guess I will just sign up for Netflix again.
Instead of just bitching about it in one paragraph, you could have written seven paragraphs.
Why would any one use a video kiosk of any type? They have such a minuscule selection. Just make a stop at a real brick and mortar video store.
I do believe Redbox's return deadline is 9 p.m.
Strangely, just last night I was having a (riveting) conversation about the movie rental industry and how long Redbox/Hollywood Video's box would last in a modern world where people might soon be able to download entire films in a matter of minutes.
I kind of think something a la Redbox or a bricks-and-mortar store will always be around, albeit in fewer locations than at present. I like renting movies when I don't have the energy to go to the gym or meet friends for drinks or whatever because it's been a long day at work and it's just not that easy to plan in advance for that feeling.
Anyhow, that sucks about the HV box leaving Cub... does anyone know - does Mickey D's own Redbox or just lease 3 square feet of space to them or what?
To answer your question, mnblrmkr, I use the Redbox at the McDonalds on Stinson mostly because I don't want to open an account at the Video Stardom (sidenote: how much longer is that place going to last?) in the same area and because the Dinkytown Hollywood Video is out of every movie I'd like to see anytime I go there, but it takes three times as long to learn that as it does while browsing the Redbox selection...
If I want to rent a good movie, I go to that movie store on the West Bank... I can't remember the name of it right now - on Cedar, a block or so from the Nomad - ???
Plus it's cheaper.
Does anyone else ever feel like they are crazy? Like you are the only person in the whole world who knows what a libraray is? Like you are the only one who knows they have free movies? shhhh, don't tell anyone but they have free books too, and cd's!
That Video Stardom is the one I have to use too, since they closed the one at Silver Lake.
It's going to be a long time before downloads have any significant numbers.
For starters:
1. Even if they manage to figure out how to move from their computer, who's going to want to watch a compressed version of a movie on their new large screen digital TV?
2. Something like only 50% of households have broadband, so that's a huge hit to it's chances right there.
3. The bandwidth simply isn't there. The figures I heard are 1-5 hours to download a movie. Imagine what's going to happen to those speeds if everyone in the neighborhood is trying to download movies as well.
4. No extras that you find on DVD. Not just fancy things like director's commentary, featurettes, deleted scenes, or alternate endings. But very basic things like closed captions.
Almost forgot:
5. The ISPs are gunning to start charging a per byte rate for service. How are you goingto feel about that movie you downloaded from the iTunes store when you get your next internet bill and find out it cost you another $30 beyond what Apple charged you?
Why would any one use a video kiosk of any type?
cuz they're cheap, efficient, and convenient.
Wow, the existence of such kiosks is news to me.
Redbox blows the Hollywood deal out of the water. Many more locations to return your movies to all across the US. Nice on road trips to pick up a movie and exchange it in the middle of the trip.
P.S. Before you go hating on Redbox return time, get your facts straight - it's 9PM
P.S. Redbox has a "rent online" feature that Rocks. Having 5 redboxes within 5 miles, I like to rent online, that way after I stand inline behind some pokey doofus that doesn't know how to touch a touch screen, I can be sure I'm getting the movie I came there for!
All for $1.00 a night!
McD's started Redbox, as a subsidiary kind of thing if I'm not mistaking. Kind of in a similar fashion as to how they started Chipotle maybe?
Anywho - I read those kiosks are about $10k and hold 250 or so movies at a time. I think McD's does a rev sharing thing with the people that have the kiosk on their property. Maybe they give 'em $0.25 from every rental?
Has anyone here tried Netflix's instant viewing? I have no idea what the quality's like since I've only got Linux at home. But yeah, I'd much rather watch stuff full-screen on my HDTV, so I'll just get my Netflix Blu-ray videos for now.
I'm not sure bandwidth is really an issue. I just downloaded a video from a UMN webserver via my Comcast cable modem. The download rate translated to 20 Mbit/s. At that speed, I could get about 2.2 GB downloaded in 15 minutes, which would be enough for a roughly DVD-quality movie. An HDTV video would be roughly six times the data, or an hour and a half to download. Of course, I don't trust some of the more aggressive compression schemes out there, but even a full 50 GB from a dual-layer Blu-ray disc would take less than 6 hours.
Of course, these numbers are completely unrealistic because this apparent speed is an artifact of Comcast's "PowerBoost" stuff, where you get a lot of bandwidth at the beginning of a download, and then watch it disappear shortly afterward. So yeah, one to six hours for a DVD.
Like I said though, wait until everyone in the neighborhood is trying to download movies too. Cable internet slows down as more of your neighbors come online.
It also doesn't address the problem of areas with no access to broadband. You get out to places like rural western ND, heck even my cousin in rural Bloomington Illinois, your options are dial up or satellite.
It's also DOA if the ISPs are successful in switching to a pay per byte service.
Haven't tried Netflix Watch Now, don't foresee that being an option any time soon.
Nor do I anticipate making a switch to digital for several years at least.
I'm a Netflix subscriber. I pay $8.99/mo for two DVDs/mo (I have to send the first one back before I get the 2nd). And I get unlimited content using Watch Now. I watch a ton of stuff on the watch now, although the selection doesn't match their DVD library yet. It's also only PC compatible right now.
The quality of the picture varies depending on your bandwidth. On my Comcast modem, it's almost - but not quite - comparable to a DVD picture.
As mnblrmkr mentioned, it also doesn't provide bonus materials like extra scenes, interviews, outtakes, or captioning (expect on foreign films).
The last time I was at a video rental place (last May), it was like I've stepped into a time machine back to the '80s. It's all so old fashioned. They're inconvenient, expensive, you have to fill out lengthy applications to become a member, and half the time they never have the movie you want anyway. Prior to that, I haven't been in a video rental place since about 2002, maybe? DVDs are so cheap to just buy outright - $5-$7 for a lots of movies, with the price of renting it, which isn't exactly cheap, who wants to be hassled with going to a video store and having to return it by their deadline, and possibly faced with a fine? Might as well just buy the movie.
In 5 years, video rental stores will a thing of the past. It's only a matter of time before we can just download the movie in a few seconds. Hollywood Video and Blockbuster should start writing their eulogies.
I don't know much about Redbox/Hollywood Video kiosks. I've never used one, nor have I've ever seen anyone using one. If it's only $1/night and you can return it to any Redbox, that's a pretty good concept.
Oh, and as far as the 'there won't be enough bandwidth' argument, that's a bunch of bananas. 10 years ago, we were all on dialup and downloading an MP3 took a good hour of your time. Webpages back then were very conscious of how long their pages took to download and would be careful not to put too many images on one page. Today, we've got pages like ESPN that fires up streaming video when you load up their page. 10 years ago, that page would've taken 30 minute to load.
Internet speeds will only get faster and technology will only get better. Down with the video stores!
Still going to be a long, long time before I support downloads.
Thanks for conserving bandwidth for the rest of us, mnblrmkr.
I still don't think the bandwidth issue is a bunch of bananas.
There's still the issue of the ISPs push to switch to a pay-per-byte service. It's not going to be too difficult for a user to bump up against their monthly limit. Not when you throw in music downloads, on-line gaming, all the software updates. Throw in a couple of movies, and your third movie is going to end up costing another $30 or so.
I also never addressed the DRM issue. With a DVD, you can grab it and go over to a friend's house, and watch it there. Good luck trying to transfer a download you purchased to your friend's set up.
And finally, I don't get why people think I should support something that I can't use. The internet USED to be an inclusive place. Unfortunately, the new services being introduced are inaccessible, with the aim (or at least the very real effect) of killing off real world alternatives that I can use.
The real world does a good enough job on it's own of isolating me. I don't like seeing technology that further isolates me in both the real world AND the internet.
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