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Re: University Ave. I just noted that Big Daddy's BBQ is in the former Abundent Life Bistro location, which has moved into the old Saigon restaurant at University & Dale.

If you like BBQ as I do, you'll like Big Daddy's. Lee & Dee's serves a good BBQ in Saint Paul as well. I'm particularly fond of the fried catfish at Lee & Dee's.

I didn't get the sense that she dislikes him, per se, just that sometimes people seem to idolize him and that he looks so calm and collected that it would probably be hilarious to see him lose it on the air.

And I've met her, and yes she is nuts, but in a good way...

"I've thrown up more good whisky through my nose than most people will ever drink."

This solidifies my opinion of Don Shelby as a cool mofo.

where is Jason? I need my Seth fix...

And I've met her, and yes she is nuts, but in a good way...

YUSSS

What did Muhammad Ali say? It ain't bragging if you can back it up?

So you missed the Ali, Dean, and Whitman cage match of 1962? It was called Rage in the Cage.

Surprisingly, Whitman won with a technical knock out.

That's right - he finally put Ali down with a combination of free verse culminating with a left hook to the liver, two minutes and fifty-three seconds into round six. Ali's corner men threw in the towel as they felt Ali was unfairly constrained by iambic hexameter.

I was channel-surfing AM radio on the way home a few weeks back and heard Shelby chiming in on the MN hiker who was, at that point, missing from Eagle Pass near Mt. Rainier. Apparently Don is an avid hiker/climber and had done the same route 5 or 6 times, and his ability to vividly describe the appearance of the areas on and around the trails was uncanny. He used some serious climber's terminology, busting out terms like "headwall", "scree" and my personal favorite "gilssade". Don's the real deal...just ask him.

Yeah, scrote, I hate wearing shoes too.

Can I find that Shelby-Ian tete a tete on youtube or something?

Here's some photos, though.

How awesome is it that Shelby wore a pin-striped suit to play blues guitar? I totally love him now.

Also: totally love Bob bringing the LOLs.

teucer---Helluva poem, but I don't think it could have been Emily Dickinson. You can sing all of her poems (well, most of them) to the tune of "The Yellow Rose of Texas." Sorta makes that whole "I heard a fly buzz when I died" stuff a little cheerier.

Ohthehumanity: Well, she was probably a bit overexcited when she wrote it. After all, I don't recall Emily Dickinson ever again being quite so foul-mouthed.

I will never understand how teleprompter readers get mistaken for being more than just that.

I mean, c'mon folks. We all have hobbies.

So what?

Dude, I have to pay for the LOLs? What the hey! Isn't my love of ethanol enough, Bob?

:)

The privitization of Hedy is a sad day in MN blogging. Totally pouring some of my Martini on the sidewalk later today in mourning.

Steve Marsh, what's newsworthy is you have a 17 year old Dodge that still runs. Seriously, how? My Daytona crapped out at 100k.

Also, Don Shelby is cool and has street cred. He spoke at a conference I was at, and he was funny, warm, and insanely knowledgeable about what we did in our industry.

dreusha is all up in my office, picking up his furniturez right now. his son is rocking some serious sunglasses

My daddy collects them. He's a domestic car savant.

I'm not surprised about Hedy -- given her future profession, that blog was a little bit TMI.

What's TMI?

ahhhh...I was wondering why Mike S stopped advertising his personal scandals...seems D&W is a less relaxed environ than I'd imagined.

Too Much Inebriation

Alie: I don't know if I'm going to call you any more cute and diminutive names. You completely ignored me when I referred to you as "toots" on that thread about the City Pages article on sexism.

I just assumed that "toots" was an amalgamation of "boobs" and "tats".

I have nothing to do with the diminutive names, baby.

Grote FTW

Okay, mi amor.

That was to Max.

Goddamn, when did these nerds take over? Grote, how do you stand it?

Steve, you can call me sweetie. The only one that makes me violent is "Missy." Besides, I have that terrible Midwest affectation of calling everyone Hon, so I can't judge.

I don't need the domestic car survival checklist. I said fuck it and bought a Japanese car.

As for Hedy's blog, it's a fantastic read but not the stuff you want out there while your bar application is pending. The character and fitness assessment has some anal-probish qualities.

Oh, she's going to be a law-yer. Got it. How boring. Poor kid. She really had potential as a cat blogger.

I'd agree with yepnope.

Oooh, my mom used to call me Missy when I was in trouble for something. I'm right there with you on disliking that one. It brings up bad memories.

I do enjoy a nice "dollface" every now and then.

I like it when people call me honeynad.

Yeah, bobby_b has been most entertaining but he's gone quiet as of late. Hopefully he'll be back soon.

Wayne: "I like it when old men call me "boy."

I'm not going to make any sort of a sassy remark.

Wayne, is there something you're not sharing with us?

Hmm, maybe that's how Wayne is supplementing his white-but-blue-collar income.

You know, buddy, you could just pick up a few shifts at Surdyk's.

It appears we've angered Steve Marsh, whoever he is.

Foureyes: Why didn't you say hi? I thought I heard someone mispronounce my last name prior to me identifying myself. Which is insane, because I haven't showered and I'm wearing a bright lime green Nike workout shirt. And if you work at Room & Board-- do you get to take home all the leftover furniture?

Steve, you have a blog.

Ooh, that hurts so much. Maybe you can find some Dickinson on google to more delightfully underscore your point.

Geek.

C'mon, people, who's got the torches? Let's mob up on these dweebs.

All I have to say on this topic Steve - as I don't feel like I know you well enough yet for us to start jerking each other off publicly - is that most people over 25 writing blog entries on how they've started reading comic books again may safely consider themselves to be nerds.

Wipe the sand out of your eyes and take a good long look at what you've become.

I'm talking specifically about the Wayne-Aliecat-Teucer axis of drips. I refuse to believe your dorkma is representative of the new mnspeak.

Jason: I was actually walking into my office when I spotted you and was with a vendor, so it might have been a bit odd to roll over for a howdy. My office is over in that section of the building, so next time for sure.

And what did I say? Deroosha? What is it, Derussia? I don't have television, so I've not seen you introduced.

I'm 1/8 nerd...on my dad's side of the family.

I'm talking specifically about the Wayne-Aliecat-Teucer axis of drips. I refuse to believe your dorkma is representative of the new mnspeak.

Ouch...hurts so good...

Marsh is the Stephen A. Smith of MNSpeak.

jderusha: And regarding leftovers: wouldn't that be nice.

That is why it is a good year to be a Cubs fan...

De-Russia... like the country. In sixth grade the hilarious burn my classmates unleashed: "De-Russia! You some kind of Commie?"

Yes. Exactly.

You used the very common De-roosha. My favorite mispronounciation was when someone tried to French-ify my last name, making it "De-Roosh-ay". Oui oui.

My blog is now private because someone, maybe even one of you, maliciously tried to sabotage my life. I don't know who, and I don't know why. At this point, I don't even know the full extent of their actions, but having a public blog is definitely not worth the risk.

If you want to keep reading my blog, and if you are not the aforementioned saboteur, feel free to send me an email: devine.hedy@gmail.com.

xo HDV

Some people obviously have so little to do with their time than to try and take others down...it's a sad day for us all...

see you there! (i'll be the guy with the smell of fresh manure emanating from his head)

just kidding. is it nice outside? anyone? i want to goooooooo.

Very nice outside! OK, I'm going away from computer land now and heading to where the beer is. If anybody wants to have stranger drinks, I'll be the girl w/ curly pigtails, a turquoise sweater and a Kem Nunn book in hand. BEER TIME!

My blog is now private because someone, maybe even one of you, maliciously tried to sabotage my life. I don't know who, and I don't know why.

I don't have any personnel axe to grind with Hedy, or any other bloggers who either frequent or just drop by MnSpeak. But I have sampled the content at a number of their blogs, from people here mentioning those blogs.

My reaction is that a frequently recurring component of so many of the blogs is the blogger describing an encounter with this or that stranger at a bar or a social function, often in considerable detail, and doing it in a very negatively one-sided way, typically ending with something like "What an asshole!"

Another category seems to be detailed dissing on ex-boyfriends and ex-girlfriends, with a good likelihood that at least a number of readers will know the individual in question.

Little wonder then that sometimes an individual who's been so dissed, relatively publicly, will be inclined to retailiate. I'm not condoning it, and I'm not exactly saying that the blogger is asking for that; I'm just saying that it probably goes with the territory.

And the solutions would be to either restrict access, a la MySpace's for-accepted-friends-only, or not talk smack about an individual if you're going to do it in a way that enables people to pinpoint who's being talked about.

Little wonder then that sometimes an individual who's been so dissed, relatively publicly, will be inclined to retaliate. I'm not condoning it, and I'm not exactly saying that the blogger is asking for that; I'm just saying that it probably goes with the territory.

So, in this vein of argument, a small embarrassment known only to a few people constitutes potentially ruining someone's life? Word's are just words, they hurt for a minute and then they are gone. Actions stick around forever, and I just can't see bitching about an ex, or whatever, should constitute vindictive and juvenile behavior.

So, in this vein of argument, a small embarrassment known only to a few people constitutes potentially ruining someone's life? Word's are just words, they hurt for a minute and then they are gone. Actions stick around forever, and I just can't see bitching about an ex, or whatever, should constitute vindictive and juvenile behavior.

In a blog attracting very little readership, then certainly it's not such a big deal.

But many bloggers aspire to significantly increase their audience by being linked-to from many other blogs. And from forums like Mnspeak (via links in posts and in comments, and via MnSpeak's aggregator). [Hedy is one such example; perhaps Aliecat has similar aspirations.] Then it becomes a bigger deal, because the blog's negative portrayals of identifiable individuals become that much more public, seen by that many more people.

At that point, it's sensible to excercize restraint in how and what you say negatively about identifiable individuals. Just as, recently here at MnSpeak, Max emphatically laid down the law to put a stop to some participants here engaging in harshly personal attacks against individual MnSpeakers.

Unfortunately, many bloggers feel they shouldn't have to bother with such ethical considerations. Which is a mighty selfish attitude. But then, blogging tends to be such a self-absorbed pastime, so I suppose that's not surprising.

We all like our little moment in the sun. If we didn't, you wouldn't be posting your opinion on this site, however anonymous you are.

No, I'm not at all interested in attracting attention to myself; I'm just interested in seeing worthy comments get added here. When I think of something that seems worthy, if I feel like it I comment here; but I choose to do so anonymously, because it's not about who I am, it's about the info or point of getting added to the discussion.

You really just proved my point.

No, the point you were claiming was that by posting here I'm being as self-absorbed as a typical blogger. Contributing material anonymously is not being self-absorbed.

woah whole lotta hatin' goin' on in here ):

I'm feelihng like john stamos w.out the 5oclock shadow.

maybe even one of you

hmmm...anyone on this thread seem like the guilty party?

non blogger, why are you picking fights? hedy is private now, so leave her alone. what she writes is obviously for entertainment value, not to hurt anyone. and aliecat was just sticking up for her friend, so leave her alone, too.

yay, now we can all be friends.

This thread really sucks. You guys should be ashamed. I mean, I read the whole thing and this was the only comment worth responding to:

Oh, she's going to be a law-yer. Got it. How boring. Poor kid.

HEY! Lawyering is hot. Ya got yer statutes and yer precedents and yer briefs and all that...'tsall hot. Different cases. I'm getting sweaty just writin' about it.

See what I mean? Even I can't save this thread. That's how lame it is.

Happy July, btw.

This thread is lame only in the sense that people don't seem to understand what blogs are: public -- or private -- diaries. Now, Hedy's blog isn't gone; it's gone private. And she has every right to do that because she may now be unfortunately realizing the hard way that there are perverts or sabatours out there who actually act on their perversion vs. your average run-of-the-mill perversion that takes place through general posting on public locally produced message boards. Ahem.

ALL of this is for public record. All of these comments are public, whether you're blogging or commenting. You can choose to be anonymous and be a pervert or a jerk or a racist or a sexist pig. On the other hand you can register, link to your personal or business website (ahem 2.0), and post (and still be all of the above said person-types).

Here they be dragons. And for that you need to be responsible.

Which is why -- even in the most challenging of states -- I pause when I post. And so should you, if you care.

Oh, and Kwatt, all lawyers are hot. And least the one I sleep with is. (Oops...did I actually post that?!?!?!! Damn...)

hedy's blog is private, but i doubt the poor girl will even post anymore after all this, especially with non-blogger up in here encouraging retaliation. some people are obviously too uptight. posts along the line of: "i went out and this guy was there and he was such an a-hole!" are FUNNY. that's why people write them and we like to read them. it's not serious, it's called creative writing.

Mr. (or Mrs.) Non-Blogger has yet to say anything crazy or out of line. If anything, he/she is just proving how thin-skinned bloggers really are. If you think your life and thoughts are so fascinating you need to start a blog, hey that's great. But when you post all those thoughts for the entire world to see, you need to understand some people are going to call you on your crap.

As for Hedy Devine, I can't help but wonder if at least a small part of her dramatic cloaking is to keep everyone talking about her. Drama!

here. here. kwatt.

Kevin, you should make a sign declaring your love for the lady lawyers, and stand outside all four law schools and the courthouses in town. Most dudes back away slowly when they hear the L word. You could clean up.

I certainly am an amicus curiae, but that sounds a little pathetic, even for me.

Blog stalkers can be a pain. But the harmless ones are entertaining. Love it when they call me on my crap in my blog. Ah, good times!