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		<title>By: noodleman</title>
		<link>http://www.secretsofthecity.com/mnspeak/theater-publicist-vs-newspaper-editor#comment-211049</link>
		<dc:creator>noodleman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2009 03:12:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Binx Bolling: It&#039;s true that not everything created by Hollywood ascends to the level of &quot;genius.&quot; However, I was not pointing at any one specific example when I made my nomination; just the overall concept of the motion picture as &quot;dream machine.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Binx Bolling: It&#8217;s true that not everything created by Hollywood ascends to the level of &#8220;genius.&#8221; However, I was not pointing at any one specific example when I made my nomination; just the overall concept of the motion picture as &#8220;dream machine.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: stevemarsh</title>
		<link>http://www.secretsofthecity.com/mnspeak/theater-publicist-vs-newspaper-editor#comment-211046</link>
		<dc:creator>stevemarsh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2009 01:02:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This thread became awesome late Friday.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This thread became awesome late Friday.</p>
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		<title>By: Binx Bolling</title>
		<link>http://www.secretsofthecity.com/mnspeak/theater-publicist-vs-newspaper-editor#comment-211017</link>
		<dc:creator>Binx Bolling</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Feb 2009 22:02:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok. I take your point. But doesn&#039;t that bother you? Doesn&#039;t it bug you that we don&#039;t have the depth we did before? I know we&#039;re supposed to be all modern, but I really think that just because we figured out a combustible engine or two and embraced antiseptics doesn&#039;t mean we&#039;re still not just overgrown apes with car keys. All the theaters in town are decaying and the powers that be order taxes to be raised to build a stadium but won&#039;t raise taxes to provide dental insurance for children. I mean, that really bothers me. I can&#039;t help it. We&#039;re supposed to be so modern and techinology is supposed to save us but art isn&#039;t valued and that&#039;s a sign of something larger amiss. 

That&#039;s all I&#039;m saying. People can&#039;t believe everything they see on TV. Or read on the internet for that matter. ;)

 





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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok. I take your point. But doesn&#8217;t that bother you? Doesn&#8217;t it bug you that we don&#8217;t have the depth we did before? I know we&#8217;re supposed to be all modern, but I really think that just because we figured out a combustible engine or two and embraced antiseptics doesn&#8217;t mean we&#8217;re still not just overgrown apes with car keys. All the theaters in town are decaying and the powers that be order taxes to be raised to build a stadium but won&#8217;t raise taxes to provide dental insurance for children. I mean, that really bothers me. I can&#8217;t help it. We&#8217;re supposed to be so modern and techinology is supposed to save us but art isn&#8217;t valued and that&#8217;s a sign of something larger amiss. </p>
<p>That&#8217;s all I&#8217;m saying. People can&#8217;t believe everything they see on TV. Or read on the internet for that matter. <img src='http://www.secretsofthecity.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: DouglasG</title>
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		<dc:creator>DouglasG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Feb 2009 21:49:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The problem is that you are judging two things with two different standards, and declaring the old one better.

Do you think it was a treat to walk down Roman, Greek, or any roads of the ancient world?  The smell alone would turn your stomach.  If you could separate yourself from some sort of modern viewpoint and objectively judge things, you will see that things aren&#039;t as awful as you make them to be.

Further, Mozart&#039;s music was revolutionary.  It was not like anything that came before.  It was the &quot;rock and roll&quot; of its day.  Some liked it and some did not.  However, it became appreciated after some time.

Who else produced music at the time?  Who were the big composers?  You can&#039;t even name the &quot;one evil guy who was jealous of his talent.&quot;  Clearly, we have far more composers than Austria  did.  Hence, we have far more breadth, but not as much depth.  That doesn&#039;t make what we have any less.  In my opinion, John Williams is the Mozart of our day.  He is doing quite fine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem is that you are judging two things with two different standards, and declaring the old one better.</p>
<p>Do you think it was a treat to walk down Roman, Greek, or any roads of the ancient world?  The smell alone would turn your stomach.  If you could separate yourself from some sort of modern viewpoint and objectively judge things, you will see that things aren&#8217;t as awful as you make them to be.</p>
<p>Further, Mozart&#8217;s music was revolutionary.  It was not like anything that came before.  It was the &#8220;rock and roll&#8221; of its day.  Some liked it and some did not.  However, it became appreciated after some time.</p>
<p>Who else produced music at the time?  Who were the big composers?  You can&#8217;t even name the &#8220;one evil guy who was jealous of his talent.&#8221;  Clearly, we have far more composers than Austria  did.  Hence, we have far more breadth, but not as much depth.  That doesn&#8217;t make what we have any less.  In my opinion, John Williams is the Mozart of our day.  He is doing quite fine.</p>
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		<title>By: jane</title>
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		<dc:creator>jane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Feb 2009 21:42:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Okay Binx, calm down. It&#039;ll be okay. Just take &#039;er easy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay Binx, calm down. It&#8217;ll be okay. Just take &#8216;er easy.</p>
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		<title>By: Binx Bolling</title>
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		<dc:creator>Binx Bolling</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Feb 2009 21:28:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WHAT?!!!

Ok, not everybody liked Mozart. Um, while that may be HIGHLY unlikely, the fact remains that Mozart is the most enduring composer to ever live whether a small fraction of his contemporaries didn&#039;t like him or not and if you believe the movie, the only people who didn&#039;t like was that one evil guy who was jealous of his talent.

And I&#039;m sure LOTS of people complained of the Parathion... Oh my! WHAT AN EYESORE THAT IS!!!!

My heart aches as I walk around American cities where there is never place to even REST unless you&#039;re resting in an automobile on the side of a freeway or waiting for someone to buy a spatula at Wal Mart in a hot and dry parking lot. American cities were designed for one thing and one purpose only: access to cars. You can&#039;t even walk down the street without fearing for your life and the only piece of public space in downtown Minneapolis is a tiny stamp-sized concrete sunken area called Peavey Plaze, and I&#039;m not even sure if it&#039;s technically public. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WHAT?!!!</p>
<p>Ok, not everybody liked Mozart. Um, while that may be HIGHLY unlikely, the fact remains that Mozart is the most enduring composer to ever live whether a small fraction of his contemporaries didn&#8217;t like him or not and if you believe the movie, the only people who didn&#8217;t like was that one evil guy who was jealous of his talent.</p>
<p>And I&#8217;m sure LOTS of people complained of the Parathion&#8230; Oh my! WHAT AN EYESORE THAT IS!!!!</p>
<p>My heart aches as I walk around American cities where there is never place to even REST unless you&#8217;re resting in an automobile on the side of a freeway or waiting for someone to buy a spatula at Wal Mart in a hot and dry parking lot. American cities were designed for one thing and one purpose only: access to cars. You can&#8217;t even walk down the street without fearing for your life and the only piece of public space in downtown Minneapolis is a tiny stamp-sized concrete sunken area called Peavey Plaze, and I&#8217;m not even sure if it&#8217;s technically public.</p>
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		<title>By: kwatt</title>
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		<dc:creator>kwatt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Feb 2009 21:25:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love skyscrapers, even though I&#039;m deathly afraid of heights.  I also think the Metrodome is beautiful.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love skyscrapers, even though I&#8217;m deathly afraid of heights.  I also think the Metrodome is beautiful.</p>
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		<title>By: DouglasG</title>
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		<dc:creator>DouglasG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Feb 2009 21:18:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My point, despite its ugliness, is that it is just as much an engineering feat to make the Metrodome as it was to make the Coliseum.  I&#039;m sure there were people back in the day who complained about how ugly the Coliseum and the Parthenon were.  There is plenty of things that we have produced to crow about.

Personally, I think the big difference is that we have spent a great deal on architecture at the expense of music and theater.  Whether we find the Metrodome beautiful or not is irrelevant -- someone designed it and it makes its statement.  Not everyone loved Mozart&#039;s stuff.  Our cities are vastly more architecturally interesting than Rome or Athens were in the day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My point, despite its ugliness, is that it is just as much an engineering feat to make the Metrodome as it was to make the Coliseum.  I&#8217;m sure there were people back in the day who complained about how ugly the Coliseum and the Parthenon were.  There is plenty of things that we have produced to crow about.</p>
<p>Personally, I think the big difference is that we have spent a great deal on architecture at the expense of music and theater.  Whether we find the Metrodome beautiful or not is irrelevant &#8212; someone designed it and it makes its statement.  Not everyone loved Mozart&#8217;s stuff.  Our cities are vastly more architecturally interesting than Rome or Athens were in the day.</p>
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		<title>By: jane</title>
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		<dc:creator>jane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Feb 2009 21:00:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agreed on the Metrodome esthetics. And some skyscrapers are hideous. But some are gorgeous. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agreed on the Metrodome esthetics. And some skyscrapers are hideous. But some are gorgeous.</p>
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		<title>By: Binx Bolling</title>
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		<dc:creator>Binx Bolling</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Feb 2009 20:54:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Metrodome is ugly. It looks like a giant zit that I want to pop!

Also, Christopher Alexander in his book &quot;A Pattern Language&quot; says that skyscrapers aren&#039;t human scale and hurt the social fabric of the community. 

I&#039;d hate to be in a skyscraper if the power ever went out. Or a plane were to hit. I&#039;m terrified of them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Metrodome is ugly. It looks like a giant zit that I want to pop!</p>
<p>Also, Christopher Alexander in his book &#8220;A Pattern Language&#8221; says that skyscrapers aren&#8217;t human scale and hurt the social fabric of the community. </p>
<p>I&#8217;d hate to be in a skyscraper if the power ever went out. Or a plane were to hit. I&#8217;m terrified of them.</p>
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