Comments on: The $400 Bar http://www.secretsofthecity.com/mnspeak/9979 Minneapolis + St. Paul Sun, 22 Nov 2009 06:07:33 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: sean http://www.secretsofthecity.com/mnspeak/9979#comment-81521 sean Fri, 20 Apr 2007 23:31:48 +0000 #comment-81521 Wow, "realism." Project much? You don't even know the people posting here, how could you pretend that our complaints aren't valid? If you "know how the business works" so well, why aren't you rocking sold-out stadia instead of shilling for a shitty bar? You can pretend all you want, but no one who's played the 400 Bar is going to pretend that they're some sort of special place. They have a dedicated stage, and they're practically on the University campus. If it weren't for those two factors (neither of which have anything to do with the current ownership or management), that place would be a surface parking lot like the rest of the block. Wow, “realism.” Project much? You don’t even know the people posting here, how could you pretend that our complaints aren’t valid? If you “know how the business works” so well, why aren’t you rocking sold-out stadia instead of shilling for a shitty bar? You can pretend all you want, but no one who’s played the 400 Bar is going to pretend that they’re some sort of special place. They have a dedicated stage, and they’re practically on the University campus. If it weren’t for those two factors (neither of which have anything to do with the current ownership or management), that place would be a surface parking lot like the rest of the block.

]]> By: realism http://www.secretsofthecity.com/mnspeak/9979#comment-81148 realism Thu, 19 Apr 2007 18:25:45 +0000 #comment-81148 a lot of venom from 1) people that haven't been in the 400 for 6+ years 2) people from bands that never could draw anyone and never will 3) people just plain ignorant about how to run a business and how to make for successful shows where a band can make money<br /> <br /> the beer at the 400 ranges from $3-$5...since when is this expensive? the rail is $4 and is, perhaps, the best rail in town, with Bacardi, Dewar's, Windsor, Beefeater, and Schmirnoff. Enough said.<br /> <br /> the bartenders have always been fine. i just want them to get me a drink, which they do as quickly as they can. if you think they're rude, you've likely never been to rock clubs in any major city in the country outside of the twin cities, so fuck off. <br /> <br /> the bands that bitch about being treated well... they are the same bands that will play all over town a dozen times a month, or play for free, or both. do you think that they can then get a full room at the 400 bar? no. the bands that bitch about their experiences at the 400 likely had no one show up, wanted free drinks, and expected the bar to bring people in to the show. the BAND has to bring people. the 400 doesn't have walk-up traffic. the bar has to pay a sound guy, a door person, and bartenders, plus all the normal overhead of utilities, booze, etc. the bands that bitch are expecting to get paid when they bring 20 people????!!! idiots. plus they want free booze, and want 30 people on the guest list. how is a venue supposed to make $$ keep playing the hexagon, the terminal, and countless other crap-sounding rooms in town...play them ad infinitum, and pretend you are rock stars. bands that work with the 400 to build something are the ones trying to actually make a go of it and become more than just another band that wil never make it outside of the Cities.<br /> the bands bitching have no idea how the business works, and they'll never be anything more than some dumb-ass band that their 5 friends, their girlfriends, and their parents want to listen to. a lot of venom from 1) people that haven’t been in the 400 for 6+ years 2) people from bands that never could draw anyone and never will 3) people just plain ignorant about how to run a business and how to make for successful shows where a band can make money

the beer at the 400 ranges from $3-$5…since when is this expensive? the rail is $4 and is, perhaps, the best rail in town, with Bacardi, Dewar’s, Windsor, Beefeater, and Schmirnoff. Enough said.

the bartenders have always been fine. i just want them to get me a drink, which they do as quickly as they can. if you think they’re rude, you’ve likely never been to rock clubs in any major city in the country outside of the twin cities, so fuck off.

the bands that bitch about being treated well… they are the same bands that will play all over town a dozen times a month, or play for free, or both. do you think that they can then get a full room at the 400 bar? no. the bands that bitch about their experiences at the 400 likely had no one show up, wanted free drinks, and expected the bar to bring people in to the show. the BAND has to bring people. the 400 doesn’t have walk-up traffic. the bar has to pay a sound guy, a door person, and bartenders, plus all the normal overhead of utilities, booze, etc. the bands that bitch are expecting to get paid when they bring 20 people????!!! idiots. plus they want free booze, and want 30 people on the guest list. how is a venue supposed to make $$ keep playing the hexagon, the terminal, and countless other crap-sounding rooms in town…play them ad infinitum, and pretend you are rock stars. bands that work with the 400 to build something are the ones trying to actually make a go of it and become more than just another band that wil never make it outside of the Cities.
the bands bitching have no idea how the business works, and they’ll never be anything more than some dumb-ass band that their 5 friends, their girlfriends, and their parents want to listen to.

]]> By: oops http://www.secretsofthecity.com/mnspeak/9979#comment-63669 oops Wed, 24 Jan 2007 22:52:57 +0000 #comment-63669 'nough said about your act!? ‘nough said about your act!?

]]> By: Jonathan C http://www.secretsofthecity.com/mnspeak/9979#comment-63653 Jonathan C Wed, 24 Jan 2007 21:20:30 +0000 #comment-63653 The last time i played a show there, the sound guy was sleeping. Enough said. The last time i played a show there, the sound guy was sleeping. Enough said.

]]> By: carla http://www.secretsofthecity.com/mnspeak/9979#comment-63531 carla Tue, 23 Jan 2007 23:39:18 +0000 #comment-63531 I think if you're gonna see a show in a bar you have to expect people talking over the show and, in general, other things going on. I remember seeing Haley Bonar last spring at the Cedar (a couple of doors down from the 400) and she was awestruck at how quiet everyone was. She said she was so use to playing in bars and having people ignore her this was strange to her. She soon got use to it and loved the interaction.<br /> As for the 400, it pisses people off but I still keep finding myself going back. Good sound and that's most important. A friend recently played there and commented on how well they got paid compared to a couple of other places they played. I think if you’re gonna see a show in a bar you have to expect people talking over the show and, in general, other things going on. I remember seeing Haley Bonar last spring at the Cedar (a couple of doors down from the 400) and she was awestruck at how quiet everyone was. She said she was so use to playing in bars and having people ignore her this was strange to her. She soon got use to it and loved the interaction.
As for the 400, it pisses people off but I still keep finding myself going back. Good sound and that’s most important. A friend recently played there and commented on how well they got paid compared to a couple of other places they played.

]]> By: gretchen http://www.secretsofthecity.com/mnspeak/9979#comment-63413 gretchen Tue, 23 Jan 2007 00:02:44 +0000 #comment-63413 why don't you put this post out of it's misery.... why don’t you put this post out of it’s misery….

]]> By: Hugh http://www.secretsofthecity.com/mnspeak/9979#comment-63300 Hugh Mon, 22 Jan 2007 19:16:15 +0000 #comment-63300 Just by entering a battle of the bands, you already lost Just by entering a battle of the bands, you already lost

]]> By: Pete Scholtes fan http://www.secretsofthecity.com/mnspeak/9979#comment-63227 Pete Scholtes fan Mon, 22 Jan 2007 05:54:52 +0000 #comment-63227 Hey, grote, why don't you just STFU? Hey, grote, why don’t you just STFU?

]]> By: grote http://www.secretsofthecity.com/mnspeak/9979#comment-63225 grote Mon, 22 Jan 2007 04:33:20 +0000 #comment-63225 Pete Scholtes is sad because HarMar wouldn't cut him a line and because he didn't realize Meg White has rotted green teeth until after they sucked face. BTW, the 400 Bar is a SHIT HOLE. Pete Scholtes is sad because HarMar wouldn’t cut him a line and because he didn’t realize Meg White has rotted green teeth until after they sucked face. BTW, the 400 Bar is a SHIT HOLE.

]]> By: mazasapa http://www.secretsofthecity.com/mnspeak/9979#comment-63180 mazasapa Sun, 21 Jan 2007 15:41:38 +0000 #comment-63180 I went there a few years ago to see my kid play. I thought everyone was real nice. A very friendly girl even went out of her way to find me a seat and I don't even know if she was employed by the bar. Maybe they're just nice to oldsters. I went there a few years ago to see my kid play. I thought everyone was real nice. A very friendly girl even went out of her way to find me a seat and I don’t even know if she was employed by the bar. Maybe they’re just nice to oldsters.

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