Comments on: Kersten Calls a Cease-Fire http://www.secretsofthecity.com/mnspeak/9897 Minneapolis + St. Paul Sun, 22 Nov 2009 06:28:20 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: msparber http://www.secretsofthecity.com/mnspeak/9897#comment-60124 msparber Sun, 24 Dec 2006 13:22:41 +0000 #comment-60124 Right back atcha.<br /> <br /> Now where's the nog? Right back atcha.

Now where’s the nog?

]]> By: sean http://www.secretsofthecity.com/mnspeak/9897#comment-60123 sean Sun, 24 Dec 2006 08:47:59 +0000 #comment-60123 That's all we've ever asked.<br /> <br /> Merry Christmas, msparber. That’s all we’ve ever asked.

Merry Christmas, msparber.

]]> By: msparber http://www.secretsofthecity.com/mnspeak/9897#comment-60118 msparber Sun, 24 Dec 2006 02:48:19 +0000 #comment-60118 It's certain a case of overearnest sensitivity over malice, but the Christianity likes to pretend that it is an embattled minority in this country, and so I'm not overly concerned. Wish me a merry Christmas or a happy holiday and I'll take the sentiment as it was meant -- as a friendly gesture. It’s certain a case of overearnest sensitivity over malice, but the Christianity likes to pretend that it is an embattled minority in this country, and so I’m not overly concerned. Wish me a merry Christmas or a happy holiday and I’ll take the sentiment as it was meant — as a friendly gesture.

]]> By: sean http://www.secretsofthecity.com/mnspeak/9897#comment-60114 sean Sat, 23 Dec 2006 21:08:31 +0000 #comment-60114 I'll admit that "War on Christmas" is an inflammatory bit of rhetoric, but you've got to be downright stupid to deny the heart of the argument. Anyone else still have their VHS tapes from years back filled with network Christmas specials, Charlie Brown, et al.? Watch the commercials and try to find a "Happy Holidays" anywhere. I've got mine from 1990, and there's not a one to be found. "Happy Holidays," while an innocuous statement in and of itself, is a symptom of our "enlightened" society trying to pretend that the most major holiday in the United States is somehow not derived from a Christian observance.<br /> <br /> I work in retail. Christmas, not Hanukkah, not Kwanzaa, not Ramadan, not Winter Solstice, not New Year's, is what pays my salary. It drives our economy, it promotes peace and goodwill, etc, etc. It's not even an argument about it's sacredness, as presents and pagan-derived trees have nothing to do with the birth of Christ. (nor does the day. Most Christians know that Jesus wasn't born in December... it's part of the story that the shepherds were out, making it at least spring.)<br /> <br /> I think it comes down to political correctness subverting an American cultural institution and putting the word "Christmas" in to the realm of profanity. It's now considered offensive to recognize that the reason we all get together with our families and exchange gifts is because of a Christian holiday, and that's pretty sad. Hanukkah is a minor holiday to Jews, Winter Solstice is a non-issue other than historically, so what other holidays are we wishing to be happy to people right now? "Holiday" is just a way for people to say "Christmas" without feeling like they're giving even a cursory nod to the Christian majority in this country, and I think that's kind of disrespectful. I’ll admit that “War on Christmas” is an inflammatory bit of rhetoric, but you’ve got to be downright stupid to deny the heart of the argument. Anyone else still have their VHS tapes from years back filled with network Christmas specials, Charlie Brown, et al.? Watch the commercials and try to find a “Happy Holidays” anywhere. I’ve got mine from 1990, and there’s not a one to be found. “Happy Holidays,” while an innocuous statement in and of itself, is a symptom of our “enlightened” society trying to pretend that the most major holiday in the United States is somehow not derived from a Christian observance.

I work in retail. Christmas, not Hanukkah, not Kwanzaa, not Ramadan, not Winter Solstice, not New Year’s, is what pays my salary. It drives our economy, it promotes peace and goodwill, etc, etc. It’s not even an argument about it’s sacredness, as presents and pagan-derived trees have nothing to do with the birth of Christ. (nor does the day. Most Christians know that Jesus wasn’t born in December… it’s part of the story that the shepherds were out, making it at least spring.)

I think it comes down to political correctness subverting an American cultural institution and putting the word “Christmas” in to the realm of profanity. It’s now considered offensive to recognize that the reason we all get together with our families and exchange gifts is because of a Christian holiday, and that’s pretty sad. Hanukkah is a minor holiday to Jews, Winter Solstice is a non-issue other than historically, so what other holidays are we wishing to be happy to people right now? “Holiday” is just a way for people to say “Christmas” without feeling like they’re giving even a cursory nod to the Christian majority in this country, and I think that’s kind of disrespectful.

]]> By: msparber http://www.secretsofthecity.com/mnspeak/9897#comment-60070 msparber Fri, 22 Dec 2006 18:26:03 +0000 #comment-60070 Hee. Hee.

]]> By: Raindog66 http://www.secretsofthecity.com/mnspeak/9897#comment-60069 Raindog66 Fri, 22 Dec 2006 18:20:47 +0000 #comment-60069 <em>Why do lefties insist on denying the religious foundations of this country?</em><br /> <br /> Fear of religious persecution?<br /> <br /> Castration anxiety?<br /> <br /> Common sense?<br /> <br /> Historical knowledge?<br /> <br /> Pick one! Why do lefties insist on denying the religious foundations of this country?

Fear of religious persecution?

Castration anxiety?

Common sense?

Historical knowledge?

Pick one!

]]> By: the reverand jackson http://www.secretsofthecity.com/mnspeak/9897#comment-60048 the reverand jackson Fri, 22 Dec 2006 05:40:35 +0000 #comment-60048 <em>What's wrong with Thanksgiving, and when was it religious?</em><br /> <br /> uh, probably when the pilgrims thanked God for their survival in the new world. Why do lefties insist on denying the religious foundations of this country? We know that when you give thanks, it's to the government, but there really wasn't much of a federal bureaucracy in 1621. What’s wrong with Thanksgiving, and when was it religious?

uh, probably when the pilgrims thanked God for their survival in the new world. Why do lefties insist on denying the religious foundations of this country? We know that when you give thanks, it’s to the government, but there really wasn’t much of a federal bureaucracy in 1621.

]]> By: bud jr http://www.secretsofthecity.com/mnspeak/9897#comment-60044 bud jr Fri, 22 Dec 2006 03:32:32 +0000 #comment-60044 A very Merry Christmas to my favorite jew-boy, Sparber!<br /> <br /> And DeRooskie, please let me lnow what Jeanette Trompeter wants to find 'under the tree' this year.<br /> <br /> A very Merry Christmas to my favorite jew-boy, Sparber!

And DeRooskie, please let me lnow what Jeanette Trompeter wants to find ‘under the tree’ this year.

]]> By: jderusha http://www.secretsofthecity.com/mnspeak/9897#comment-60040 jderusha Fri, 22 Dec 2006 02:02:50 +0000 #comment-60040 <a href="http://www.new-life.net/thanks01.htm" target="_blank">This website says</a>, it's got the "True" Thanksgiving story, so it must be true. This website says, it’s got the “True” Thanksgiving story, so it must be true.

]]> By: champs|bus http://www.secretsofthecity.com/mnspeak/9897#comment-60037 champs|bus Fri, 22 Dec 2006 01:46:41 +0000 #comment-60037 Well, Thanksgiving originated with the Puritans, but I expect that the natives portrayed as co-celebrators were still at least some kind of heathen, in part.<br /> <br /> Oh, and it sucks to get on a bus at 7pm headed for "downtown", but that means St. Paul, and you're headed home. Well, Thanksgiving originated with the Puritans, but I expect that the natives portrayed as co-celebrators were still at least some kind of heathen, in part.

Oh, and it sucks to get on a bus at 7pm headed for “downtown”, but that means St. Paul, and you’re headed home.

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