Comments on: Chris Jenkins Murder http://www.secretsofthecity.com/mnspeak/9803 Minneapolis + St. Paul Sun, 22 Nov 2009 07:11:27 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Tawn http://www.secretsofthecity.com/mnspeak/9803#comment-57288 Tawn Wed, 22 Nov 2006 22:59:01 +0000 #comment-57288 The suspicion of a serial killer is very attention grabbing... enough to make almost anything in the case seem like and obvious clue. With saying that... the almighty Mississippi has claimed (to my calculations) 6 males (Charles Blatz, Tony Skifton, Nathan Kapfer, Jeff Geesey, Jared Dion and now Chris Jenkins) ages 19-28, dating back to 1997 all with significant levels of alcohol in their systems and last seen at a nearby bar. While obviously alcohol impairs your judgment, the notion that these kids decided to go for a little swim in the Mississippi alone is highly doubtful. Accidental death can be ruled out just as easily. If you trip, slip or hit your head, you're not going to fall or slide much farther than the initial accident. In a number of these cases, to even get to the water you have to navigate a concrete staircases and walls, stretches of pavement and anywhere from 5-10 foot areas of rocks and pebbles. I live in Winona, MN which is DIRECTLY along the Mississippi and it's safe to say that we have had no drunken drownings. We have 7 bars located 3 blocks or less from the river. Maybe we don't party hardy as much as these boys, but I find that highly unlikely. In the area of the river nearest to the bars there is only a single set of railroad tracks and a paved ramp preventing access to the river. I have (many times) jumped and ran along the planks drifting next to the shore in this exact area I mentioned. Accidents and coicidences can only rule out so many things. Suicide is also a little weak of a theory. If any of these kids were going to commit suicide, they would have chosen a different venue. Only one of the males I've mentioned has shown previous tendancies towards depressive and suicidal behavior. If these kids were going to commit suicide they would choose a different way out. The police (4 years later) say they have a suspect in custody for another unrelated crime. In my opinion... male, mid-30s, has asfixiation fetishes and fantasies (i.e. holding people underwater), has spent time in MN and WI and is aware that neither states have the death penalty, with previous convictions related to sexual assault of young males. If not... what a fricken coincidental chain of events. Thank goodness the Jenkins' family stuck with this one. The suspicion of a serial killer is very attention grabbing… enough to make almost anything in the case seem like and obvious clue. With saying that… the almighty Mississippi has claimed (to my calculations) 6 males (Charles Blatz, Tony Skifton, Nathan Kapfer, Jeff Geesey, Jared Dion and now Chris Jenkins) ages 19-28, dating back to 1997 all with significant levels of alcohol in their systems and last seen at a nearby bar. While obviously alcohol impairs your judgment, the notion that these kids decided to go for a little swim in the Mississippi alone is highly doubtful. Accidental death can be ruled out just as easily. If you trip, slip or hit your head, you’re not going to fall or slide much farther than the initial accident. In a number of these cases, to even get to the water you have to navigate a concrete staircases and walls, stretches of pavement and anywhere from 5-10 foot areas of rocks and pebbles. I live in Winona, MN which is DIRECTLY along the Mississippi and it’s safe to say that we have had no drunken drownings. We have 7 bars located 3 blocks or less from the river. Maybe we don’t party hardy as much as these boys, but I find that highly unlikely. In the area of the river nearest to the bars there is only a single set of railroad tracks and a paved ramp preventing access to the river. I have (many times) jumped and ran along the planks drifting next to the shore in this exact area I mentioned. Accidents and coicidences can only rule out so many things. Suicide is also a little weak of a theory. If any of these kids were going to commit suicide, they would have chosen a different venue. Only one of the males I’ve mentioned has shown previous tendancies towards depressive and suicidal behavior. If these kids were going to commit suicide they would choose a different way out. The police (4 years later) say they have a suspect in custody for another unrelated crime. In my opinion… male, mid-30s, has asfixiation fetishes and fantasies (i.e. holding people underwater), has spent time in MN and WI and is aware that neither states have the death penalty, with previous convictions related to sexual assault of young males. If not… what a fricken coincidental chain of events. Thank goodness the Jenkins’ family stuck with this one.

]]> By: Big G http://www.secretsofthecity.com/mnspeak/9803#comment-57250 Big G Wed, 22 Nov 2006 18:50:44 +0000 #comment-57250 Time to outsource the Minneapolis PD for good! Rybek and the rest of the crew at city hall are just totally worthless when dealing with new leaders on police force! Nothing has gone right in the last decade over there.<br /> <br /> PS: They should have pick that Moose guy from Washington D.C., rather than that McMannus dude several years ago! What the heck was R.T. thinking?! Time to outsource the Minneapolis PD for good! Rybek and the rest of the crew at city hall are just totally worthless when dealing with new leaders on police force! Nothing has gone right in the last decade over there.

PS: They should have pick that Moose guy from Washington D.C., rather than that McMannus dude several years ago! What the heck was R.T. thinking?!

]]> By: Carrie http://www.secretsofthecity.com/mnspeak/9803#comment-57225 Carrie Wed, 22 Nov 2006 16:37:22 +0000 #comment-57225 bud jr, I don't know where my current hang outs rank, but I haven't been back to the Lone Tree since that night. bud jr, I don’t know where my current hang outs rank, but I haven’t been back to the Lone Tree since that night.

]]> By: bud jr http://www.secretsofthecity.com/mnspeak/9803#comment-57215 bud jr Wed, 22 Nov 2006 16:04:55 +0000 #comment-57215 Carrie, you should be hanging in some more upscale environs than that. Carrie, you should be hanging in some more upscale environs than that.

]]> By: grote http://www.secretsofthecity.com/mnspeak/9803#comment-57213 grote Wed, 22 Nov 2006 14:55:42 +0000 #comment-57213 <a href="http://www.startribune.com/462/story/828184.html" target="_blank">The PI doesn't buy the MPD's version of events</a>. There seems, also, to be physical & circumstancial evidence that contradicts the MPD's version. Maybe he's got an ax to grind, or maybe he's right. The PI doesn’t buy the MPD’s version of events. There seems, also, to be physical & circumstancial evidence that contradicts the MPD’s version. Maybe he’s got an ax to grind, or maybe he’s right.

]]> By: Henry Hormann http://www.secretsofthecity.com/mnspeak/9803#comment-57175 Henry Hormann Tue, 21 Nov 2006 22:22:52 +0000 #comment-57175 What are his friends saying who were there with him that night, have they gone on record with anything? Does anyone know why he got the boot from the Lone Tree? What are his friends saying who were there with him that night, have they gone on record with anything? Does anyone know why he got the boot from the Lone Tree?

]]> By: Mpls Simpleton http://www.secretsofthecity.com/mnspeak/9803#comment-57166 Mpls Simpleton Tue, 21 Nov 2006 21:54:43 +0000 #comment-57166 <em>Seems pretty simple to me.</em><br /> <br /> You seem to be missing a key point. They tossed him out of the Lone Tree without his wallet and phone. He couldn't have given them up if he tried. Seems pretty simple to me.

You seem to be missing a key point. They tossed him out of the Lone Tree without his wallet and phone. He couldn’t have given them up if he tried.

]]> By: bud jr http://www.secretsofthecity.com/mnspeak/9803#comment-57162 bud jr Tue, 21 Nov 2006 21:37:11 +0000 #comment-57162 ...not poorly lit enough to miss the faux tonto outfit... …not poorly lit enough to miss the faux tonto outfit…

]]> By: bobby_b http://www.secretsofthecity.com/mnspeak/9803#comment-57160 bobby_b Tue, 21 Nov 2006 21:30:53 +0000 #comment-57160 "<em>The plot thickens!</em>"<br /> <br /> - - - <br /> <br /> Plot?<br /> <br /> Man-boy stumbles in an alcoholic haze over the poorly-lit bridge, refuses a request by the waiting group for his wallet, verbal altercation, physical altercation, man-boy tossed over the railing? *<br /> <br /> That plot?<br /> <br /> Seems pretty simple to me.<br /> <br /> (* : just guessing, but I doubt I'm far off.)<br /> <br /> . “The plot thickens!“

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Plot?

Man-boy stumbles in an alcoholic haze over the poorly-lit bridge, refuses a request by the waiting group for his wallet, verbal altercation, physical altercation, man-boy tossed over the railing? *

That plot?

Seems pretty simple to me.

(* : just guessing, but I doubt I’m far off.)

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]]> By: Carrie http://www.secretsofthecity.com/mnspeak/9803#comment-57167 Carrie Tue, 21 Nov 2006 21:20:58 +0000 #comment-57167 His sister said the bouncers at the Lone Tree send her brother out the door without his belongings - wallet, phone, coat. Did the family take legal action against the bar?<br /> <br /> The last time I was at the Lone Tree a guy (who in my opinion was high on a lot more that booze - the crazed, glass eyed look) was startled when a waitress behind him dropped a drink. He swung around and hit the first person he could focus on. He was on a roll and was preparing to take his next swing. The bouncers were busy watching girls dance, so the waitress (all 95 pounds of her) jumped up on the puncher and tried to slow him down (she was literally dangling from his neck like a giant necklace). He pulled her off of him and ran out the door. Fortunately the waitress wasn't hurt.<br /> <br /> The bouncers finally became aware of something going on. The punched guy, who was bleeding and totally in shock because he'd done nothing to provoke the altercation, was than grabbed by a bouncer, scolded for his involvement in a fight, and pushed out the door. <br /> <br /> His sister said the bouncers at the Lone Tree send her brother out the door without his belongings – wallet, phone, coat. Did the family take legal action against the bar?

The last time I was at the Lone Tree a guy (who in my opinion was high on a lot more that booze – the crazed, glass eyed look) was startled when a waitress behind him dropped a drink. He swung around and hit the first person he could focus on. He was on a roll and was preparing to take his next swing. The bouncers were busy watching girls dance, so the waitress (all 95 pounds of her) jumped up on the puncher and tried to slow him down (she was literally dangling from his neck like a giant necklace). He pulled her off of him and ran out the door. Fortunately the waitress wasn’t hurt.

The bouncers finally became aware of something going on. The punched guy, who was bleeding and totally in shock because he’d done nothing to provoke the altercation, was than grabbed by a bouncer, scolded for his involvement in a fight, and pushed out the door.

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