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	<title>Comments on: Miscellaneous Local Links &#8211; 9/20/06</title>
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		<title>By: scoste</title>
		<link>http://www.secretsofthecity.com/mnspeak/9580#comment-50005</link>
		<dc:creator>scoste</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Sep 2006 01:33:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jesus, those crybabies over at Riverwest!!!  Anyone who buys a condo or townhouse here in downtown has got to have enough common sense to know that the landscape down here is constantly changing due to all of the construction going and that what you see out your windows may change over time.....get used to it!  I&#039;ve got a condo in the Warehouse District and since I bought it 8 years ago, I&#039;ve had new construction go up across the streets where my windows face and I&#039;m not pissing and moaning about it.  If it&#039;s such a big deal, go buy a huge lot out in Lakeville away from any close neighbors or development. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jesus, those crybabies over at Riverwest!!!  Anyone who buys a condo or townhouse here in downtown has got to have enough common sense to know that the landscape down here is constantly changing due to all of the construction going and that what you see out your windows may change over time&#8230;..get used to it!  I&#8217;ve got a condo in the Warehouse District and since I bought it 8 years ago, I&#8217;ve had new construction go up across the streets where my windows face and I&#8217;m not pissing and moaning about it.  If it&#8217;s such a big deal, go buy a huge lot out in Lakeville away from any close neighbors or development.</p>
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		<title>By: tmayhem</title>
		<link>http://www.secretsofthecity.com/mnspeak/9580#comment-49771</link>
		<dc:creator>tmayhem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Sep 2006 15:29:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, they should also be aware of the way the park board likes to sell off land to developers around here if they were counting on them &#039;protecting&#039; their valuable sight lines. I know where they&#039;re coming from, but they&#039;re still being babies about it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, they should also be aware of the way the park board likes to sell off land to developers around here if they were counting on them &#8216;protecting&#8217; their valuable sight lines. I know where they&#8217;re coming from, but they&#8217;re still being babies about it.</p>
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		<title>By: Elizabeth</title>
		<link>http://www.secretsofthecity.com/mnspeak/9580#comment-49671</link>
		<dc:creator>Elizabeth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Sep 2006 21:21:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some people might have felt some security in knowing that park-owned (not necessarily park-like) land was between them and the river, perhaps preventing development.  Should The Wave get built, the residents of that building would feel rather secure that another building won&#039;t go up between them and the river.&lt;br /&gt;
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I&#039;m not arguing that it is a beautiful park (I said I thought the development should go through).  But I can understand where the opponents are coming from.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some people might have felt some security in knowing that park-owned (not necessarily park-like) land was between them and the river, perhaps preventing development.  Should The Wave get built, the residents of that building would feel rather secure that another building won&#8217;t go up between them and the river.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not arguing that it is a beautiful park (I said I thought the development should go through).  But I can understand where the opponents are coming from.</p>
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		<title>By: tmayhem</title>
		<link>http://www.secretsofthecity.com/mnspeak/9580#comment-49624</link>
		<dc:creator>tmayhem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Sep 2006 19:25:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Wave is going to be built on the strip of land between the W River Road and 1st St S. It might technically be park-board-owned, but it&#039;s not a park in any conventional sense. Some run-down disused parking lots, cruddy unkempt trees and a pretty steep cliff down to the river (with no pedestrian access, mind you ... though it looks like there were some steps at one point in the past?). Yeah, what a pristine park they must be very sad about losing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Wave is going to be built on the strip of land between the W River Road and 1st St S. It might technically be park-board-owned, but it&#8217;s not a park in any conventional sense. Some run-down disused parking lots, cruddy unkempt trees and a pretty steep cliff down to the river (with no pedestrian access, mind you &#8230; though it looks like there were some steps at one point in the past?). Yeah, what a pristine park they must be very sad about losing.</p>
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		<title>By: Elizabeth</title>
		<link>http://www.secretsofthecity.com/mnspeak/9580#comment-49614</link>
		<dc:creator>Elizabeth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Sep 2006 18:31:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From the linked article, &quot;The land is owned by the Minneapolis Park and Recreation Board. The board acquired the property in the mid-1980s to expand West River Parkway.&quot;  I was under the impression that part of it was parkland along the river, but I could be mistaken.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From the linked article, &#8220;The land is owned by the Minneapolis Park and Recreation Board. The board acquired the property in the mid-1980s to expand West River Parkway.&#8221;  I was under the impression that part of it was parkland along the river, but I could be mistaken.</p>
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		<title>By: tmayhem</title>
		<link>http://www.secretsofthecity.com/mnspeak/9580#comment-49536</link>
		<dc:creator>tmayhem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Sep 2006 15:26:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;I&#039;m sure some Riverwest residents were sold on the fact that there was park land between them and the river and it couldn&#039;t be developed.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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you mean a park-ing lot, right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>I&#8217;m sure some Riverwest residents were sold on the fact that there was park land between them and the river and it couldn&#8217;t be developed.</i></p>
<p>you mean a park-ing lot, right?</p>
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		<title>By: kwatt</title>
		<link>http://www.secretsofthecity.com/mnspeak/9580#comment-49494</link>
		<dc:creator>kwatt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Sep 2006 02:45:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s too bad they&#039;re going to lose their view.  I have a friend who lives in Summit House and the downtown views from there are incredible.  But that&#039;s life in the city.  Sorry, y&#039;all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s too bad they&#8217;re going to lose their view.  I have a friend who lives in Summit House and the downtown views from there are incredible.  But that&#8217;s life in the city.  Sorry, y&#8217;all.</p>
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		<title>By: compubox</title>
		<link>http://www.secretsofthecity.com/mnspeak/9580#comment-49463</link>
		<dc:creator>compubox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Sep 2006 19:55:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>there seems to be some parallels between this and the nicollet island/delasalle dust up.  the moral i would take from all this is that when you&#039;re living in a society, well...sometimes you&#039;re not gonna like what yer neighbors do.  &lt;br /&gt;
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hey, maybe those association controlled communities (whatever they&#039;re called) out in the burbs aren&#039;t looking so bad after all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>there seems to be some parallels between this and the nicollet island/delasalle dust up.  the moral i would take from all this is that when you&#8217;re living in a society, well&#8230;sometimes you&#8217;re not gonna like what yer neighbors do.  </p>
<p>hey, maybe those association controlled communities (whatever they&#8217;re called) out in the burbs aren&#8217;t looking so bad after all.</p>
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		<title>By: grote</title>
		<link>http://www.secretsofthecity.com/mnspeak/9580#comment-49459</link>
		<dc:creator>grote</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Sep 2006 19:09:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If the people really want to maintain their riverview, they could attempt to purchase the development rights to the parcel of land.  If they can&#039;t afford it, then they lose the sightlines.  In NYC they actually have TDRs for the airspace above buildings in the name of historical and/or site-line preservation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the people really want to maintain their riverview, they could attempt to purchase the development rights to the parcel of land.  If they can&#8217;t afford it, then they lose the sightlines.  In NYC they actually have TDRs for the airspace above buildings in the name of historical and/or site-line preservation.</p>
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		<title>By: tatemani</title>
		<link>http://www.secretsofthecity.com/mnspeak/9580#comment-49444</link>
		<dc:creator>tatemani</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Sep 2006 17:59:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s a tip:  lakeshore property.&lt;br /&gt;
heh</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s a tip:  lakeshore property.<br />
heh</p>
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