Comments on: A Bad Omen for City Pages? http://www.secretsofthecity.com/mnspeak/9079 Minneapolis + St. Paul Sun, 22 Nov 2009 08:23:37 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: George Travis http://www.secretsofthecity.com/mnspeak/9079#comment-62723 George Travis Thu, 18 Jan 2007 08:58:23 +0000 #comment-62723 However be careful about starting your own magazine. It's an all-consuming enterprise to even do a monthly four pager. I know! However be careful about starting your own magazine. It’s an all-consuming enterprise to even do a monthly four pager. I know!

]]> By: George Travis http://www.secretsofthecity.com/mnspeak/9079#comment-60312 George Travis Thu, 28 Dec 2006 05:47:48 +0000 #comment-60312 The Village Voice has degenerated into a mainly erotic gay rag. It's not worth reading anymore. Was a great paper in the 60s though. City Pages is going the same way with its "disgust" theme. It has become a trashy caricature of itself. NOTHING worth reading. Like the VV, CP is heavily subsidized by gay sex ads. In fact, the only decent weeklies are Downtown Journal and Southwest Journal. The Village Voice has degenerated into a mainly erotic gay rag. It’s not worth reading anymore. Was a great paper in the 60s though. City Pages is going the same way with its “disgust” theme. It has become a trashy caricature of itself. NOTHING worth reading. Like the VV, CP is heavily subsidized by gay sex ads. In fact, the only decent weeklies are Downtown Journal and Southwest Journal.

]]> By: Johnny Walker http://www.secretsofthecity.com/mnspeak/9079#comment-40141 Johnny Walker Thu, 15 Jun 2006 13:13:26 +0000 #comment-40141 Xgau was an unreadable pretentious ponce. The funniest thing was when Lou Reed publicly savaged him on his live _Take No Prisoners_ album. Xgau also insisted that all rock critics LOVE hip-hop, or be not so subtly labelled as "racist." Why should a rock critic have to love hip-hop? Isn't that a job for a HIP-HOP critic? Face it, this guy was an asshole.<br /> <br /> Chuck Eddy? I was told by a writer that knew him that he was a total prick, but he seemed better than Xgau.<br /> Xgau was an unreadable pretentious ponce. The funniest thing was when Lou Reed publicly savaged him on his live _Take No Prisoners_ album. Xgau also insisted that all rock critics LOVE hip-hop, or be not so subtly labelled as “racist.” Why should a rock critic have to love hip-hop? Isn’t that a job for a HIP-HOP critic? Face it, this guy was an asshole.

Chuck Eddy? I was told by a writer that knew him that he was a total prick, but he seemed better than Xgau.

]]> By: hans http://www.secretsofthecity.com/mnspeak/9079#comment-31892 hans Tue, 25 Apr 2006 06:19:18 +0000 #comment-31892 geoff, take it easy. breathe. freedom, baby! it's been a while since you posted. remember how trivial and silly it can be? that's GOOD. you're getting back into the swing of things!<br /> <br /> pop=bad. rock=good. hip-hop=guilty.<br /> <br /> now let's hear some fucking recommendations, or take that shit outside. geoff, take it easy. breathe. freedom, baby! it’s been a while since you posted. remember how trivial and silly it can be? that’s GOOD. you’re getting back into the swing of things!

pop=bad. rock=good. hip-hop=guilty.

now let’s hear some fucking recommendations, or take that shit outside.

]]> By: rex http://www.secretsofthecity.com/mnspeak/9079#comment-31883 rex Tue, 25 Apr 2006 05:12:52 +0000 #comment-31883 It makes me very pleased to see you..... across oceans, or something such.<br /> It makes me very pleased to see you….. across oceans, or something such.

]]> By: geoff http://www.secretsofthecity.com/mnspeak/9079#comment-31881 geoff Tue, 25 Apr 2006 04:48:41 +0000 #comment-31881 <i>i guess i'm talking about music that aims for the space between pure pop, American-Idol style garbage, and navel-gazing art-school garbage like the Strokes?</i><br /> <br /> what a bizarre and depressing sentence. sorry but there is so little "space" between these two things! there are oceans of water out to the left and right of each and you want something between them? what for? i don't get it. and i don't get what "pure" is supposed to mean there; purity is about the last thing AIdol serves up, and it doesn't sound like you've heard much actual navel-gazing art-school garbage, since that's about the last thing the Strokes are either. "boy band for city girls" is what everyone has ever said about them! and kelly clarkson's big hit sounds like omg the yeahx3s! so i have read!<br /> <br /> and no one's stopping you from listening to the next twenty five soft bulletin retreads from here until doomsday anyway! and you have a state-supported commercial-free station playing them all day, in your hometown! fuck, some people get exactly what they want, and it's not enough.<br /> <br /> this is the first thing i've written on mnspeak in months. hi rex! i guess i’m talking about music that aims for the space between pure pop, American-Idol style garbage, and navel-gazing art-school garbage like the Strokes?

what a bizarre and depressing sentence. sorry but there is so little “space” between these two things! there are oceans of water out to the left and right of each and you want something between them? what for? i don’t get it. and i don’t get what “pure” is supposed to mean there; purity is about the last thing AIdol serves up, and it doesn’t sound like you’ve heard much actual navel-gazing art-school garbage, since that’s about the last thing the Strokes are either. “boy band for city girls” is what everyone has ever said about them! and kelly clarkson’s big hit sounds like omg the yeahx3s! so i have read!

and no one’s stopping you from listening to the next twenty five soft bulletin retreads from here until doomsday anyway! and you have a state-supported commercial-free station playing them all day, in your hometown! fuck, some people get exactly what they want, and it’s not enough.

this is the first thing i’ve written on mnspeak in months. hi rex!

]]> By: Pete Scholtes http://www.secretsofthecity.com/mnspeak/9079#comment-31854 Pete Scholtes Tue, 25 Apr 2006 00:51:05 +0000 #comment-31854 Side note on "I Hate 1984" to anyone who comes across this: I hope to reformat all those Wanda letters (so you can see them in the updated CP blog format) and actually post them all like I promised two years ago. Wanda actually emailed me and was cool with it, too. Side note on “I Hate 1984″ to anyone who comes across this: I hope to reformat all those Wanda letters (so you can see them in the updated CP blog format) and actually post them all like I promised two years ago. Wanda actually emailed me and was cool with it, too.

]]> By: msparber http://www.secretsofthecity.com/mnspeak/9079#comment-31642 msparber Sat, 22 Apr 2006 15:31:22 +0000 #comment-31642 This is why I only listen to The Wiggles. This is why I only listen to The Wiggles.

]]> By: BrianP http://www.secretsofthecity.com/mnspeak/9079#comment-31635 BrianP Sat, 22 Apr 2006 13:28:50 +0000 #comment-31635 So you are "grousing about a pop landscape dominated by big-budget spectacle, high-concept photo shoots, reminscing about a time when the charts were packed with people who had something to say, and meant it, even if that time never actually existed. If this sounds like you, then take a long look in the mirror: you might be a rockist." That's from "The Rap Against Rockism" by Kalefa Sanneh in the Times. I'm convinced that indie-rockers are the new rockists, and they're even more uptight and boring than the classic rockers, who are the old school rockists. Indeed, "Disco Sucks" has given way to "Music today is all about the bling and the 'ho's and the domination of the big record companies" and such other misguided notions. The post from yesterday by mntw is correct to point out that not much has really changed. So you are “grousing about a pop landscape dominated by big-budget spectacle, high-concept photo shoots, reminscing about a time when the charts were packed with people who had something to say, and meant it, even if that time never actually existed. If this sounds like you, then take a long look in the mirror: you might be a rockist.” That’s from “The Rap Against Rockism” by Kalefa Sanneh in the Times. I’m convinced that indie-rockers are the new rockists, and they’re even more uptight and boring than the classic rockers, who are the old school rockists. Indeed, “Disco Sucks” has given way to “Music today is all about the bling and the ‘ho’s and the domination of the big record companies” and such other misguided notions. The post from yesterday by mntw is correct to point out that not much has really changed.

]]> By: M. Matos http://www.secretsofthecity.com/mnspeak/9079#comment-31633 M. Matos Sat, 22 Apr 2006 09:23:54 +0000 #comment-31633 "Rockism" isn't a whiz-bang new term at all; it's been around about 25 years, was coined during the post-punk era by the UK press. There's more about this in Simon Reynolds' great new book <I>Rip It Up and Start Again</I>, but really you should read that book whatever its ties to a phrase someone called someone else in the comments section of a blog. <br /> <br /> As far as ILM pumping Ashlee Simpson goes, Rex, I don't recall ever seeing any threads where that happened. Sounds like a strawman to me, but maybe I'm wrong. “Rockism” isn’t a whiz-bang new term at all; it’s been around about 25 years, was coined during the post-punk era by the UK press. There’s more about this in Simon Reynolds’ great new book Rip It Up and Start Again, but really you should read that book whatever its ties to a phrase someone called someone else in the comments section of a blog.

As far as ILM pumping Ashlee Simpson goes, Rex, I don’t recall ever seeing any threads where that happened. Sounds like a strawman to me, but maybe I’m wrong.

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