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		<title>By: Cat</title>
		<link>http://www.secretsofthecity.com/mnspeak/12842#comment-181891</link>
		<dc:creator>Cat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 20:13:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting back wages story update from Dave Brauer:&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;em&gt;ITEM: Some Metropolitan Media Group employees will get back pay and vacation pay after all.&lt;br /&gt;
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Last week, I reported that local business titan Tom Petters was buying the local-lifestyle-mag chain, but stiffing employees out of a few weeks&#039; pay plus accrued vacation.&lt;br /&gt;
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The mags themselves are of little consequence, but the Strib&#039;s Chris Serres and Mpls.St.Paul&#039;s Brian Lambert advanced the story and amplified the reverse-Robin-Hood angle: rich guy screws low-paid grunts.&lt;br /&gt;
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Now, according to Petters Group spokesperson Andrea Miller, the 39 MMG employees being kept on will get &quot;retention bonuses&quot; equal to their back pay and vacation. The company still has not decided about making whole the 10-15 workers laid off; Miller says that annoucement will be made Friday or Monday.&lt;br /&gt;
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Did media pressure get the retained workers their cash? Miller insists not. &quot;We weren&#039;t able to get the pieces in place quickly enough&quot; to let workers know when the MMG announcement was made, she explains. &quot;Tom Petters, a very active manager in our company, was traveling and we were unable to reach him for confirmation.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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Hmm ... OK.&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting back wages story update from Dave Brauer:</p>
<p><em>ITEM: Some Metropolitan Media Group employees will get back pay and vacation pay after all.</p>
<p>Last week, I reported that local business titan Tom Petters was buying the local-lifestyle-mag chain, but stiffing employees out of a few weeks&#8217; pay plus accrued vacation.</p>
<p>The mags themselves are of little consequence, but the Strib&#8217;s Chris Serres and Mpls.St.Paul&#8217;s Brian Lambert advanced the story and amplified the reverse-Robin-Hood angle: rich guy screws low-paid grunts.</p>
<p>Now, according to Petters Group spokesperson Andrea Miller, the 39 MMG employees being kept on will get &#8220;retention bonuses&#8221; equal to their back pay and vacation. The company still has not decided about making whole the 10-15 workers laid off; Miller says that annoucement will be made Friday or Monday.</p>
<p>Did media pressure get the retained workers their cash? Miller insists not. &#8220;We weren&#8217;t able to get the pieces in place quickly enough&#8221; to let workers know when the MMG announcement was made, she explains. &#8220;Tom Petters, a very active manager in our company, was traveling and we were unable to reach him for confirmation.&#8221;</p>
<p>Hmm &#8230; OK.</em></p>
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		<title>By: noodleman</title>
		<link>http://www.secretsofthecity.com/mnspeak/12842#comment-181582</link>
		<dc:creator>noodleman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 20:44:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;It&#039;s charitable just keeping them on the payroll in spite of their product bleeding red ink. If they can help make the business profitable for Petters, it&#039;ll be like a welfare to work program.&lt;/em&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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The obvious business solution then is to work for free. Payroll is always the major operating expense of any business. If we worked for free, a business would stand a much, much better chance of being profitable for its owners.&lt;br /&gt;
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So, g_rote, can we see you lead us by example?&lt;br /&gt;
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P.S. Product-bleeding-red-ink is actually not the fault of the employees. It&#039;s the fault of short-sighted product geniuses who understand little of the market they&#039;re dealing with. As someone wrote earlier: &lt;em&gt;Wasn&#039;t MMG the company that created the print mag about local radio personalities? Just sayin&#039;.&lt;/em&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Maybe 15 years ago when we still had real radio personalities in this market. But now, in this era of cloned-and-canned-voice-tracked radio? ROTFLMAO.&lt;br /&gt;
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And I work in radio.&lt;br /&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>It&#8217;s charitable just keeping them on the payroll in spite of their product bleeding red ink. If they can help make the business profitable for Petters, it&#8217;ll be like a welfare to work program.</em></p>
<p>The obvious business solution then is to work for free. Payroll is always the major operating expense of any business. If we worked for free, a business would stand a much, much better chance of being profitable for its owners.</p>
<p>So, g_rote, can we see you lead us by example?</p>
<p>P.S. Product-bleeding-red-ink is actually not the fault of the employees. It&#8217;s the fault of short-sighted product geniuses who understand little of the market they&#8217;re dealing with. As someone wrote earlier: <em>Wasn&#8217;t MMG the company that created the print mag about local radio personalities? Just sayin&#8217;.</em></p>
<p>Maybe 15 years ago when we still had real radio personalities in this market. But now, in this era of cloned-and-canned-voice-tracked radio? ROTFLMAO.</p>
<p>And I work in radio.</p>
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		<title>By: g rote</title>
		<link>http://www.secretsofthecity.com/mnspeak/12842#comment-181522</link>
		<dc:creator>g rote</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 17:57:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Why doesn&#039;t he spread some of that much-praised &quot;charity&quot; around to his new employees?&lt;/em&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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It&#039;s charitable just keeping them on the payroll in spite of their product bleeding red ink.  If they can help make the business profitable for Petters, it&#039;ll be like a welfare to work program.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Why doesn&#8217;t he spread some of that much-praised &#8220;charity&#8221; around to his new employees?</em></p>
<p>It&#8217;s charitable just keeping them on the payroll in spite of their product bleeding red ink.  If they can help make the business profitable for Petters, it&#8217;ll be like a welfare to work program.</p>
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		<title>By: jane</title>
		<link>http://www.secretsofthecity.com/mnspeak/12842#comment-181493</link>
		<dc:creator>jane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 16:53:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wasn&#039;t there talk about not using the term &quot;douchebag&quot; anymore? I believe suggested replacements included: &lt;br /&gt;
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F***rag&lt;br /&gt;
F***knuckle&lt;br /&gt;
C***stain</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wasn&#8217;t there talk about not using the term &#8220;douchebag&#8221; anymore? I believe suggested replacements included: </p>
<p>F***rag<br />
F***knuckle<br />
C***stain</p>
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		<title>By: mnblrmkr</title>
		<link>http://www.secretsofthecity.com/mnspeak/12842#comment-181492</link>
		<dc:creator>mnblrmkr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 16:52:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alie, they could, but legally, I believe they&#039;re just another holder of unsecured debt, and would be at the end of the creditor line.&lt;br /&gt;
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That&#039;s why I suggested that maybe wages need to create an automatic lien against company assets. Any transfer of assets would then have to be used to satisfy the wage obligation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alie, they could, but legally, I believe they&#8217;re just another holder of unsecured debt, and would be at the end of the creditor line.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s why I suggested that maybe wages need to create an automatic lien against company assets. Any transfer of assets would then have to be used to satisfy the wage obligation.</p>
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		<title>By: Ang</title>
		<link>http://www.secretsofthecity.com/mnspeak/12842#comment-181490</link>
		<dc:creator>Ang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 16:46:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alie, yep.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alie, yep.</p>
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		<title>By: Mittens</title>
		<link>http://www.secretsofthecity.com/mnspeak/12842#comment-181488</link>
		<dc:creator>Mittens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 16:44:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, maybe Petters is great with the &quot;charitable endeavors&quot; but that&#039;s not what we&#039;re talking about here.  Why doesn&#039;t he spread some of that much-praised &quot;charity&quot; around to his new employees? Sounds like they&#039;re going to need it. &lt;br /&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, maybe Petters is great with the &#8220;charitable endeavors&#8221; but that&#8217;s not what we&#8217;re talking about here.  Why doesn&#8217;t he spread some of that much-praised &#8220;charity&#8221; around to his new employees? Sounds like they&#8217;re going to need it. </p>
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		<title>By: aliecat</title>
		<link>http://www.secretsofthecity.com/mnspeak/12842#comment-181486</link>
		<dc:creator>aliecat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 16:41:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I didn&#039;t RTFA, but if they&#039;re owed for work already completed, can&#039;t they just go to the MN Department of Labor and file a grievance without having to hire an attorney?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I didn&#8217;t RTFA, but if they&#8217;re owed for work already completed, can&#8217;t they just go to the MN Department of Labor and file a grievance without having to hire an attorney?</p>
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		<title>By: mnblrmkr</title>
		<link>http://www.secretsofthecity.com/mnspeak/12842#comment-181484</link>
		<dc:creator>mnblrmkr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 16:37:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe what needs to happen is a system where backwages create an automatic lien on corporate assets. Mechanics and contractors can place liens on your personal property. Try selling a house with out standing taxes: either the seller or the buyer is going to be on the hook in order to allow the transaction to complete.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe what needs to happen is a system where backwages create an automatic lien on corporate assets. Mechanics and contractors can place liens on your personal property. Try selling a house with out standing taxes: either the seller or the buyer is going to be on the hook in order to allow the transaction to complete.</p>
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		<title>By: g rote</title>
		<link>http://www.secretsofthecity.com/mnspeak/12842#comment-181483</link>
		<dc:creator>g rote</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 16:34:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I certainly hope the state doesn&#039;t get involved with douchebag owners.  your feminine hygeine is your own business.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I certainly hope the state doesn&#8217;t get involved with douchebag owners.  your feminine hygeine is your own business.</p>
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