Secrets of the City

Poor girl is getting slammed in the Strib comments.

I don’t get it. I have 7 years of experience and a master’s degree and I can’t get a phone call back about jobs at Target. This girl has a bachelor’s degree and some bs experience and she lands a job? WTF. I hate Target.

That said, I had a journalism degree and made $18,000 in my first job out of college.

Surprisingly, the Strib comments are moderated. They just moderate them to get rid of anything resembling humanity or reason.

I am curious about how she got that job given some of the nasty comments…

When I was editor-in-chief of an Omaha newsweekly, I made $22k per year.

I guess the comments on the Strib site are a lot like mine.

48K at the age of 22. That’s amazing.

I noted the nasty mysogomy of one comment in particular.

Yeah, if you take the mysogeny out of the equation, some of the commenter’s anger makes sense.

Given that Target tends to only hire liberal arts students from certain schools, I’m thinking that the comment about a magic phone call isn’t too far off. She had to have connections of some kind. Good for her.

The featured comment at the moment:

I applied for five or six marketing-related positions through Target’s massive online “help wanted” Web portal. My college degree is & read more focused in marketing, and I have eight years of experience in the field. I didn’t even receive an e-mail to say “no thanks.” Nothing. How does someone with an unrelated educational background, and no relevant work experience get a job making nearly $50k?

The probable answer: “I was a congressional intern for Rep. Jim Ramstad this past spring… I worked at the county attorney’s office one summer… “

The comments at the Strib are wrong. It’s nothing to do with her being a woman. It’s all about who you know, and she’s probably got a very good head start on her politically connected rolodex,and I’m sure Target took note of that.

I saw this in the Sunday paper, and my first thought was “I hope Wayne doesn’t see this.”

Removing those two factors leaves only the misogyny.

My first job, out of grad school, with an MS was $22K.

Yeah I think a personal phone call from “The Rammer” will probably get you a job at either “The Borg/Target” or “TheDeathStar/Bestbuy”

I do love her pageant style answers….she’ll fit right in over there amongst the khaki army.

Question: If I called up, say, Ellison’s office and asked for them to call Target for me, would they? Is that part of what they do?

Because I’m 50X more qualified for this job than she is AND I think I applied for it.

kc!:
That depends did you essentially work for free for him at some point?

Repeat after me, America:

A lot of stuff is about who you know or who you blow.

Moving on…

When the Rammer came to speak at my high school when I was in 10th grade, there was this kid who was a dem and a *huge* political junkie. He asked the Rammer a question and he gave some BS answer and the kid was like, “um, that a lie because you also said x,y, z”. The Rammer lost his shit and started yelling at the kid before realizing where he was and then calmly said, “give me a call, we’ll have coffee.”

It was kind of awesome and I kinda don’t like this girl because she worked for Rammstad. Actually, I flat out don’t like her for that.

It doesn’t even take a phone call from the person in cases like these. The person hiring sees the name, and recognizes that this candidate has connections (especially if he or one of his staffers is listed in the references section). Even with Ramstad retiring, she’ll still have connections to the permanent Congressional bureaucracy, seeing that those staffers get passed around more than Teucer’s mom.

I don’t get it. I have 7 years of experience and a master’s degree and I can’t get a phone call back about jobs at Target. This girl has a bachelor’s degree and some bs experience and she lands a job? WTF. I hate Target.

Maybe because they only want to pay someone in this job 48k rather than a higher salary that they think someone with 7 years of experience and a master’s degree would want. Maybe they consider this job entry level and that you’d be overqualified.

48K at the age of 22. That’s amazing.
I didn’t graduate until I was 23, but I made more than that at my first job out of school (yay for engineering degrees). I make less now, though.

I stopped working for free a long time ago.

But they don’t know my circumstances. I may be very happy with 48K. And I do apply for higher level jobs than this too.

It isn’t that I’m not hired that bugs me, but I haven’t had one phone call or email. There is no one you can call to find out the status of your application. And I know I’m not the only one to experience this with Target.

As much as it sucks, I can’t hate her for utilizing connections because I find it difficult to believe that most of us wouldn’t to some degree or another if we really wanted a job. I’m not talking about saying “oh, do you know who my dad is?” But rather having someone put a good word in for someone.

I can, however, justify disliking people who are significantly stupider than me making significantly more money than me. That shit is just annoying.

And I also knew someone who had that same job right out of college. A masters degree *is* overqualified for that position. Actually, a BA is too but…

No, no, no. The death star is clearly Thompson Corp. Not best buy.

Any position in there I covert, I daresay.

*covet not covert. WTH

Having political experience on your resume is nice, but really the references you get from it are no different than the references you get anywhere that you apply yourself and do good work. I highly doubt that J-Ram himself was going through his contacts and making calls to get this girl a job.

It’s far more likely that this girl knows the skills she has and finds ways to get herself in front of people to show them how she can put her skills to work for their benefit, and then delivers. Over time, and in her case a short time, that built on itself and now she’s making 48K a year and only 22 years old. It sounds like she’s an outgoing and versatile thinker. Rather than get all bitter and pissy, I’m sitting here going, man, I can learn from that. People like that are recession proof. Finding a good job for them is like shooting fish in a barrel.

As much as it sucks, I can’t hate her for utilizing connections because I find it difficult to believe that most of us wouldn’t to some degree or another if we really wanted a job. I’m not talking about saying “oh, do you know who my dad is?” But rather having someone put a good word in for someone.

Oh, I certainly wouldn’t blame anyone for utilizing connections. I probably wouldn’t even blame someone for saying “do you know who my dad is?”

I would blame the hiring person that fell for that though.

I made $7.50 an hour at my first job out of college. It was for a magazine in Iowa. It was the happiest I’d ever been at a job. I loved every minute of it.

There’s an awful lot of assumptions being made about that woman and her job. And most of them sound like sour grapes.

It’s likely Target wanted somebody inexperienced and malleable, so they could teach them to do things the Target way. Lots of people get weeded out of app piles for being “over-qualified.”

The world ain’t fair.

(That said, $48,000 at 22! Think of the power of compound interest!)

I also applied for numerous positions (graphic design) through the Target site when I was searching for a job last year. Never heard a thing. Not even a “thanks for applying” email. That sucked.

I figured that I had too much experience (9 years). I found that a lot of employers were looking for designers with just 2 or 3 years of experience. You’ve shown that you can show up for work every day, but won’t ask for much.

There is part of the Target application process where you can list “Target Team Members” who can recommend you. I was told later that this is hugely important. It’s possible that she knows someone who is influential within the company. A call from Ramstad probably wouldn’t hurt either.

Sure. But then why does strib lord her salary and age out like it’s something we’re supposed to cow tow to?

Meh, I say. I am doing what I love.

Having political experience on your resume is nice, but really the references you get from it are no different than the references you get anywhere that you apply yourself and do good work. I highly doubt that J-Ram himself was going through his contacts and making calls to get this girl a job.

He doesn’t have to. They see the name, and they know that in all likelihood, she’s still got contacts in DC. Those contacts with staffers, even future staffers are probably just as valuable, if not more so. And a major corporation like Target is certainly going to notice that.

I like how people complain that the website of a multi-billion dollar corporation is impersonal. The hell you say!

Sure. But then why does strib lord her salary and age out like it’s something we’re supposed to cow tow to?

It’s a regular feature in the financial section. Both “How I Got My Job” and “Cash Check” list both age and salary (which is sometimes vague) as part of the feature. No kow-towing required.

I agree tinnie. A job like hers would bore me to tears, and I wouldn’t feel like I’m really contributing to anything of any real significance.

My job, I love what I do, I’ve liked the people I work with, for the most part, and I’m making a contribution to things that can make a positive difference to society.

I feel sorry for her — she sounds like she’s smart and a good worker, but unfortunately, she’s still green enough that she doesn’t know that you *do not* reveal how much you make in public like that. There’s going to be some unhappy people at 1000 Nicollet today, I think.

Well, however she got the job (and I suspect that it was through the usual channels – Target probably just liked the politico connection because it implies ambition and a willingness to work hard), I wish her luck. She’s off to a great start and I hope her career is a happy, challenging and successful one.

Its not some big conspiracy. Target wants recruits right out of college for three reasons: 1) they are dirt cheap 2) they stay longer at the company 3) they are easier to mold to the target philosophy. Its as simple as that.

Target does hire more experienced people but, like all big companies, it comes down to who do you know and the hiring process is much longer. Its best to know the hiring manager to get pass the recruiters who are only looking at how well you used punctuation in your resume.

She’s not a Carlson grad. She’s a CLA grad at the U of M in poli sci and sociology (not even econ). I don’t care how smart she is, it’s highly unusual she’d get a second look from Target without some connections. My understanding is that the liberal arts majors they usually get are from certain schools that they strongly recruit from. I’m sure a few are from local schools liberal arts colleges, but I will be a good chunk of them were in the business programs. Its kinda like how Google recruits for their glorified customer service positions..

The girl has connections or something special on her resume that made them pull her resume. There are certain fields/companies that are insanely difficult to break into with a BA. I’ve seen it happen and its happened to me. I took 2 years off from college to do internships/work/whatnot and it took 1.5 years of various internships before I was even able to get my foot in the door in a certain industry. (I also majored in poli sci).

To come straight out of U of M CLA and land that position with previous experience that is not directly related to it, doesn’t really happen under normal circumstances. Especially considering the insane number of apps Target gets. The ultimate reason got the job more than likely was on her own merits but she got in the door with some help.

And ain’t no shame in that game.

Don’t tell me about conspiracies, my friend’s one. Where’s Max gone?

Oy. I highly doubt it was her political connections that got her in. The position she’s in is one that Target is ALWAYS hiring for, and there are hordes of folks in that same position in the company’s merchandising department. As long as you’re a recent college grad and have a high enough GPA, they’re happy to talk to you. And because there are always so many openings, chances are pretty decent you’ll get snapped up.

That said, it’s not a glamorous position. It’s hard work, not particularly creative or fun, and the attrition rate is pretty brutal — hence the constant need to replenish the ranks. Not to mention — each analyst can only serve so many stores, and as new stores open they need to increase head counts.

But if you’re looking to get into another area, like marketing, PR, publicity, promotions, or other slightly more creative areas — keep on dreaming. It doesn’t happen often.

I think Kevin made some really good points above.

I also highly doubt that Ramstad made a call for her. But it probably didn’t hurt that she had his name on her resume.

There is part of the Target application process where you can list “Target Team Members” who can recommend you. I was told later that this is hugely important. I also heard that it can really help if there is someone in the company who can recommend you.

I hope she doesn’t stumble upon this thread. If she does, I hope she knows that the criticism isn’t being directed at her, rather at the hiring process. Whenever people get mad at less-than-competent co-workers, I always suggest they direct their anger at whoever hired that person.

Kevin – It’s not that the site is impersonal that’s annoying. It’s that there is no response at all. Lots of large corporations have systems that automatically send an email when you apply, confirming that the application has been received. When the position is filled, the system automatically emails all the applicants, letting them know that they didn’t make the cut. It’s totally impersonal, but it keeps the applicants informed.

I can, however, justify disliking people who are significantly stupider than me making significantly more money than me. That shit is just annoying.

LOL!
Bix, what’s your field?

I love the jealous and presumptive comments, both here and the strib. She may be underqualified, but she’s certainly not stupid now is she!

Who cares about how she got the job – is that really the best picture the strib could get its hands on?? It’s pixellated, for cripes sake!

I have the same complaint, esquared.

If they like her political contacts, Target has a gov ops department, they would have steered her that way if they thought she could gain value from them. But in reality the people they already have possess contacts and relationships far surpassing anything a 22yo would amass in one spring as an intern.

What she did probably get on some strange connection was that profile in the Strib. I’m curious how that came about. Mainly, I’d like to know how many other Targetrons said, “I’m not telling you my salary” before they found someone who would.

And those of you getting bent out of shape at a 22 y/o making 48k a year should really hate the 22 y/o BAs I went to college with who are making twice that (or more) in investment banking (excluding bonus). That’s really obscene, especially given what they do…and I’ve had at least 5 i-bankers over the years try to explain to me what it is they do besides fiddle with Excel late into the night and I still don’t have a good answer.

Maybe she wrote a cover letter so good it made the screener cry…

I’m not mad at her, I’m pissed at Target. She got a lucky break, good for her.

is that really the best picture the strib could get its hands on?? It’s pixellated, for cripes sake!

No, that’s how Molly actually looks — which is why Target thought she was a perfect candidate to eventually take over their on-line sales division.

@baker.

Welcome back from your hiatus.

I wasn’t suggesting she was stupider than me, I was just commenting that it sucks when people stupider than me make more money. I’d been having this comment with several people recently. Really, my comment wasn’t clear on that and I probably should have been.

I work in consulting.

@jderusha

I assume she’ll see the Stribs comments long before she gets to MNSpeak. I’m thinking that looking at those vs looking at these makes it abundantly clear that most of these are not about her specifically.

We don’t hate the player, we hate the game.

If they like her political contacts, Target has a gov ops department, they would have steered her that way if they thought she could gain value from them. But in reality the people they already have possess contacts and relationships far surpassing anything a 22yo would amass in one spring as an intern.

But you have to keep your minor league stocked. It’s certainly of value to a company to have at least a few people that “came up through the ranks.” If she stays with the company, she’ll be steeped in the corporate culture, as well having long term connections. It can also be of value for a company to have people with experience in other facets of their operation.

Am I the only one who stands outside of Target to watch the Targetrons come and go?

Mmm. Targetrons.

Yes, you are.

Perv.

kc! I sent you an email at the address listed on your blogger account.

Maybe she writes cover letters so good that you’ll kiss yourself.

She’s also entering a job that has crazy-ass hours, loads of stress, and not even a thank-you in sight. Most business analysts burn out after 18months and leave Target. Target knows that they will get a lot of work out of them and they won’t have to promote them (becuase there are limited positions beyond the BA)

But you have to keep your minor league stocked. It’s certainly of value to a company to have at least a few people that “came up through the ranks.” If she stays with the company, she’ll be steeped in the corporate culture, as well having long term connections. It can also be of value for a company to have people with experience in other facets of their operation.

Yeah, but that’s not really usefull for gov ops where your primary job is to deal with people who don’t work for Target.

I’m not mad at her, I’m pissed at Target. She got a lucky break, good for her.

i wouldn’t call it luck. she worked hard, earned her degree, got some valuable experience along the way, and presented herself well enough to get hired. and she’s going to work her arse off for that money. luck is hitting the lotto.

I can’t believe so many people think that $48k is such a phat salary. I hired two entry-level people at $60k last year (although in a different industry).

I can’t believe so many people think that $48k is such a phat salary.
you gotta remeber there are a lot of government workers and artsy types that frequent here…;)

Lots of writers and journalists too. You know, low paying jobs where people can goof off all day online.

There are very few fields (that I’m aware of) where an entry level salary (bachelors) is going to be much more than mid-upper $20k.
Considering that the median US household income is not even $45K, for someone to make above that, right out of school is definitely a “phat” salary.

Valuable experience cubbie? she probably answered phones for Ramstad’s office, and she was a file clerk for the county attorney’s office. That’s not $48,000/yr experience. What she got was connections.

A salary like that, out side her sociology/poli sci field, with no business experience, she definitely hit the lotto.

dude, engineer entry level jobs can range from 50-80k.
my first full time job landed me about 40k.

Ivanka Trump I am not so 48k is purdy phat to me.

yes, mnblrmkr, valuable experience for a college student searching for an entry-level position. you should expand your horizons…my entry level position in (yikes!) ‘95 was $34K. which was good, but not exceptional by any means.

Median is in the 40s, so high 40s is pretty sweet.

Dude, I’m not even close to 48k and I’m 30!

Engineering is not a liberal arts major. I think the high salary talk is for someone coming out of school with a BA. Not starting engineers.

Median is in the 40s, so high 40s is pretty sweet.

And don’t forget, that is HOUSEHOLD. not individual.

Had I been making $48k (or even it’s 1992 equivalent) when I graduated with my BA in Political Science I’d have been running around telling everyone who ever told my by Liberal Arts education was going to be worthless to “suck it!”.

With that said I think many of the comments about her obviously using political connections to get the job sure sound like uninformed ’sour-grapes’.

Here’s some 2002 data for science degrees:

A summary of some of the US data is as follows. The median starting salary (i.e., salaries received less than 1 year after receiving degree) for a person with a bachelor’s degree in science or engineering is $28,200. For those with 5 to 9 years of experience since receiving the bachelor’s degree, the median salary is $40,250; 15 to 19 years, $54,000; and 25 to 29 years, $56,000. For master’s-level degrees in science, the median starting salary is $34,280. In the group 5 to 9 years since receiving the master’s degree, the median is $45,000; 15 to 19 years, $53,650; and 25 to 29 years, $65,000. For PhDs, the median starting salary is $32,500. For those who have 5 to 9 years of experience since receiving a doctoral degree, the median is $60,000; 15 to 19 years, $79,486; and 25 to 29 years, $91,100. Average salaries are highest in the northeastern and Pacific states and lowest in the Mountain states (Arizona, Colorado, Idaho, Montana, New Mexico, Nevada, Utah, and Wyoming). Women in the life sciences earn somewhat less than their male counterparts. The median salary for women with master’s-level science degrees is $44,000, compared with $50,000 for men; for PhDs, the medians are $56,500 for women and $72,000 for men. The survey also shows disparities in salaries among racial and ethnic groups. For scientists with PhDs, median salaries are the following: White/Caucasian (not of Hispanic origin), $70,000; Asian, $60,000; Hispanic/Latino, $54,000; and Black/African, $52,300.

To be fair, if Obama gets in the white house, expect the median salary for black PhDs to climb up to about 60k. You know, since everything will change and all.

When I was a youngster the objective was to “make your age” … to make a comfortable living your salary should be equal to your age. (22 years-old, 22k salary, etc.) Now I think the rule of thumb figure is probably twice that.

When I was a youngster the objective was to “make your age” … to make a comfortable living your salary should be equal to your age. (22 years-old, 22k salary, etc.) Now I think the rule of thumb figure is probably twice that.

Nah… twice your age would be hoping for a lot, for most people. I have a feeling this is not linear… Maybe, uh, age(log(age))? That’d start people at just under $30k as they come out of college, reaching $60k by the time they’re 40…

god I spend too much time fiddling in Excel and assorted other data-analysis tools late into the night. and i’m not even an i-banker.

Is it just me or does/will anyone feel like they’ve “made it” when they make as much as their parents did?

My father was making $13,000 when he retired (my mother was a stay-at-home mom). I was making that when I was 27. By the time I was 40 I was paying more in income taxes than he ever made in salary.

Bixby- Yep!

Interesting comments.

I know a number of people who are working in field in which their degrees are not, but that doesn’t make them unqualified. Apparently the person hiring saw something in her or her skills that would make her the best candidate for the position.

And I agree with others who have said that she prolly had a connection with someone within Target. It seems to happen that way a lot with large corporations.

what the f_ck is “life science”?

The “life sciences” are anything in the biological field.

Those averages are interesting. My school’s engineering career services annually puts out salary info for new grads, broken down by major and degree. Granted, the responses are voluntary, but I don’t think any of the majors had much below $40,000 as a starting salary. And I know there are a lot of people with a B.S. in biology or a related field that start their life out as lab grunts, which doesn’t pay well at all.

And I know there are a lot of people with a B.S. in biology or a related field that start their life out as lab grunts, which doesn’t pay well at all.

That would be just about everybody. Unless you go directly into something like sales or tech support.

Granted, you can do very well in sales, due to the commissions, if you’ve got that special skill, of course the flip side is tons of regional travel, and if youdon’t have that sales skill, you’re going to be in REALLY bad shape.

Elizabeth, I’ll readily admit that engineering fields is one of those where starting salaries will be much higher. In fact, in the statistics I posted, I would suspect that if you were to remove the engineering salaries, the median would drop considerably for the remaining fields.

I’ll bet she showed up at the interview and was all “Change! Change! I’ll bring you change!” So they gave her the job.

Before you hate the playa or the game you may want to ask yourself about the title of this post.

Well she’s obviously a democrat. I mean she worked for Ramstead, right?

Holy crap, I think I just sprained my eyeballs.

Is it just me or does/will anyone feel like they’ve “made it” when they make as much as their parents did?

I outmake my mom, who is a teacher. It’s tough to know what my dad hauls in. I’m also at that target salary (no pun intended) that I identified when I graduated college. But I don’t think I’ve “made it” at all. Far, far from it.

Well she’s obviously a democrat. I mean she worked for Ramstead, right?

I was thinking about that on the way home tonight. Maybe I missed it in the article, but she must not have any interest or desire to get into politics because in an election year jobs for 22 year olds are a dime a dozen.

I have to hand it to you alie. That was pretty good. heh

Is it just me or does/will anyone feel like they’ve “made it” when they make as much as their parents did?

At first glance I thought you were asking if anyone “makes it” as much as their parents did. Ick. And no, probably not.

Miller, are you saying your parents bone more than you?

Way to go Mother and Father Miller!

bone

Instead of thinking that her Ramstad internship got her the Target job, why not ask how she got the Ramstad internship?

When you google Molly Waters, look at what comes up as the 2nd hit

First female drum major sets the pace for the University of Minnesota Marching Band

“Watters, who is studying political science and sociology at the U, landed the role of drum major in April–winning the hearts of the staff and 302-person band with her leadership skills, showmanship and signature drum major backbend.”

It sounds like Molly has great leadership skills, and Ramstad’s office, and now Target, have noticed.

Makes you think how many potential employers are deciding whether to reply to your application based on what shows up in your google results>

Oops, I mistyped her last name in my post, but I did have the right spelling when doing the google search.. The MnDaily article is definitely about her, because it mentions her double major.

I think the US needs a change; thats why I’m an Obama man. Mcain would bring no change whatsoever.

wtf she makes that much?
that job sounds shit-easy compared to what I do
and a degree in polysci?

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I just exploded with rage

yeah I pretty much want to firebomb target hq right now

good thing I’m a pacifist to the core.

I’m outraged it took Wayne 99 comments to get outraged!

screw it, I’m just going to apply to every job listed on their website right now, especially the ones totally unrelated to my degree. they don’t seem to care what you went to school for anyway.

Don’t forget to include that firebombing comment on your cover letters. Large corporations love go-getters who aren’t afraid of taking the initiative.

I would list the fire bombing under interests and hobbies.

Don’t forget about your political contacts.

(points to himself)

Good thinking there, MB. Casual, but meaningful. You can reinforce that impression by writing on your cover letter “I really want this job and if I don’t get it… well, I don’t know what I’ll do!”

I’m just going to apply to every job listed on their website right now, especially the ones totally unrelated to my degree. they don’t seem to care what you went to school for anyway.

Five years into the real world, what you studied in college becomes meaningless, wayno. From then on, it’s what you’ve accomplished.

You’re learning late. And you seem to have become little more than a experienced whiner.

Exactly Teucer. Let’s them know you’re passionate about things. I would probably list Jason as a contact too. Wouldn’t hurt to have a celebrity or two on your reference list as well.

You’re forgetting that to Target, Jason is the guy always wandering around the across the street talking into a camera.

WTF, Rat? Weren’t you just bitching about personal attacks yesterday?

violence is never the answer.
Under interest and hobbies I put “good with hands.”

It’s worked wonders and has played an important role in my career plans.

seriously, man. bugger off rat.
if you went to school for some bullshit liberal arts degree, then yeah, it’s meaningless a few years out. if you studying anything difficult and of substance that not everyone can do, that still matters.

Cat, I would just put “Asian Persuasion” under skills.

oh, and I thought it would be clear that the firebombing was a joke. I wouldn’t even begin to know how to accomplish it on a building of that scale.

Now, houses …

and small commercial structures … especially retail storefronts …

is there ‘anybuddy’ in st paul that might be interested? I like pizza too…

True, Kevin. But someday, I expect to be working for Target. Probably wearing khaki pants and a red shirt.

Applying in a health-related industry? Consider Mr. Lungs a prime contact.

Tobacco-related industry? Not so much…

Weren’t you just bitching about personal attacks yesterday?

Yeah, that was me.

True, Kevin. But someday, I expect to be working for Target. Probably wearing khaki pants and a red shirt.

In today’s business environment for MSM, jason is only half-joking. Let’s hope it never comes to that, and wcco remains Jason’s Station.

Wayno: “oh, and I thought it would be clear that the firebombing was a joke. I wouldn’t even begin to know how to accomplish it on a building of that scale.”

It was, but gags like that tend to get your resume moved to the top of the pile. Only, that pile is marked “lulz” and you’re sharing it with hand-written resumes scribbled in crayon.

For hobbies, I always put “freaky three-ways.” You’d be surprised how many jobs it has gotten me.

The jobs we call “blow.”

Wayne: take a breather as I was joking as well.

btw: My bullshit liberal arts degree holds great meaning… I just can’t seem to remember what.

MB: Good point. I considered changing my last name to sound more Asian so that the interest and hobbies would have a more immediate impact.

If you gotta talk about it, Max, it ain’t happening.

Sex machine is, as sex machine does.

Well, it ain’t happening right now. I am, after all, in a four-hour training session for a Web management system.

But I actually do talk about it when I do it. Mostly comments like “Move your leg” and “don’t hit that, please.”

Hint: Do not mention “grenades” under hobbies or special skills. I learned that the hard way!

From what I understand, Max talks while doing.

Excellent multi-tasking skillz for resume.

Well, it ain’t happening right now. I am, after all, in a four-hour training session for a Web management system.

If you can’t score there, you might as well become a Monk.

Adrian Monk?

Cat, it is too bad you couldn’t study anything hard. Maybe you would be smarter.

You should change your name to Chang like in Seinfeld.

I recommend “Cat Wang Ho.”

I swear your resume will rise to the top every time!

Cat Wang Ho

That’s what she said.

I just rose to the top.

True, Kevin. But someday, I expect to be working for Target. Probably wearing khaki pants and a red shirt.

How demeaning it would be to go from the good question guy to the guy who asks, “Paper or plastic?”

Mb: Just trying to break down the wall of stereotypes for you peeps. Not all Asians are smart or have natural computer abilities.
*looks for e-n-t-e-r key*

Thanks, Bob. You’re the best:0)

But it’s not the rise of the resume that’s important.

— lesson #4 from The Concubine: Shifting skillz from home to workplace.

Paper or plastic is tomorrows good question.

Cat is asian?

Bong.

Well, I think I know what to recommend for my bookclub next month.

Cat, it is too bad you couldn’t study anything hard

Cat is looking to study something hard? Queue Sparber.