Secrets of the City

Teen online nudity? The correct MNspeak response is:

1) Kaherine Kersten sucks
2) Guns and/or bacon
3) Magnets
4) Jason DeRusha dances the white boots

Maybe teenagers are just trying to find a place in a culture that is concerned with sex appeal and material possession as the only qualifications for self respect? Hopefully people will tire of this psychological spastiscity just like they quickly got sick of torture porn.

Perhaps we need to add “Don’t take nude pictures of yourself and give them to your friends” to sex ed.

we have a society that is at once sexist and puritanical. Companies use women’s bodies to sell their products. celebrities use their bodies to advance their careers. Media uses sex to increase readership. these images are immersed in our culture, but when we talk about the actual women that are the subject of these images, we are judgemental and scornful.

We need to get over the hypocrisy. we need to either say that it’s okay to sell your body, or we need to not create such a demand for it. I think the second option is less possible then the first.

I’m not sure this is just a teen phenomenon, and I don’t think it’s really anything all that new.

People have been posting naked pictures of exes on the internet for years now. Is the trend going younger because kids want to be like celebs? Unless people are putting crotch shots of themselves getting out of cars, I guess I’m missing the link.

The story included experts who said- hey it’s not just about this Hudson case where a girl gave naked pictures of herself to a couple boyfriends– but then didn’t give any other examples, so I’m not sure if this is really a larger issue, or an effort to cover the salacious naked internet pictures story in a “responsible” “Journalistic” way.

Yeah, me, if only it were that easy. I’m not sure that saying it’s okay to sell your body or legalizing prostitution would change attitudes.

If a kid doesn’t have a solid sense of who she/he is, it doesn’t matter if those images are around or not.

We need to return to those innocent days of when I was in high school: Just make out with every boy you thought was cute and have your dad yell at you for being boy crazy and have your bros not talk to you because you dated all of their friends.

*Not that I would know anything about it, it was a rumor floating around in my school*

this is definitely nothing new
they’re called ‘n00dz’

as in “send n00dz!”

Maybe if we, as a society, were able to talk to kids openly and honestly about their sexuality instead of being all “NO! Don’t touch each other! Don’t think about touching each other! Sex BAD!” teens would be more comfortable with themselves and wouldn’t feel the need to send pictures of their boobs to other boys.

or maybe teens would still watch mtv spring break and want to show everyone their naughty bits anyway.

Is the MTV Spring Break stuff even that bad anymore? It was pretty raunchy when I was in high school (remember those episodes of Beauty and the Beach), but the last couple bits I saw a few years ago weren’t that sexualized.

Either we have become so numb to MTV Spring Break or it’s just rehashed crap, or I’m getting old and don’t find it amusing anymore.

Prolly the latter.

Truthfully though, if I were in HS today, I’d probably do the same thing as I did a lot of really dumb things in HS before I thought about the consequences. Showing my boobs doesn’t get me pregnant so along the bad decision lines, I would vote for a boob flash over pregnancy any day.

Young people using technology to bare all might be feeling pressure to create a bad-boy identity like celebrities, experts say.

Hmmm. I don’t think so, or certainly not the greater majority of teens. I don’t feel teens nowadays are any more adventurous than we were in the age of Playboy and Gallery (with its “Girl Next Door” photo features). I came across a couple of articles over the weekend that noted negative teen reaction to the Miley photos.

The biggest change, though, has been the advent of digital photo technology which has made it possible now for ANYONE to preserve “Polaroid” moments that otherwise would’ve had to have gone to a photo shop for printing … unless you owned a Polaroid. It’s now more visible, too, simply because the Internet makes it possible to disseminate photos and erotica on a widespread, almost-instantaneous basis.

Hooray for boobs!!!

Uh, Douglas, can you come with us?

FBI — That’s for Female Body Inspector right?

douglas, mildly creepy.

Damn! I was going for strongly creepy!

Yeah, it probably isn’t a sea-change of frequency as instead one of distribution. I do not understand the need to put yourself out there like that. Some girls let their boyfriends walk all over them.

experts? in what? some experts also say we are not in a recession.

From the article:
“You see boys growing up thinking the size of a woman’s cleavage is more important than the size of her soul,” he said.

Seriously? Never before in the history of raging teen male hormones have they ever thought cleavage was going to save their souls?

Puhleez.

experts? in what? some experts also say we are not in a recession.

This story obviously needed some Sexperts.

Lunch!: I can’t prove it, but my strong sense is that you are underestimating just how much porn culture has become normalized and even encouraged.

Lunch!: I can’t prove it, but my strong sense is that you are underestimating just how much porn culture has become normalized and even encouraged.

Please define “porn.” IMHO, what is most often posted online is erotica, not porn per se. Nothing hard-core; just tease. Miley’s photos aren’t porn.

With that in mind, how has “porn culture” become any more normalized and encouraged than what was available at Shinder’s or the corner gas station 20 years ago? Those of us over 30 can still recall the days when you could find magazines to suit all tastes (Biker Babes! Jugs! P***y Patrol!) displayed openly for sale behind — and sometimes on — the counter. The covers might not have been explicit but the inside content certainly was.

Naturism, in all its uncensored glory, too, is nothing new … and most of the amateur photos I’ve seen are more “naturist” than “porn.” I (fondly) remember discovering a naturist magazine under my older brother’s bed back when I was a wee pup of 12. (And that was, uh, 40 years ago.) No tan lines anywhere on the body. LOL

Noodleman: My bros would tell you that our porn culture has changed because there isn’t a mean old guy online yelling at them to get away from the Hustlers and to get out of the adult section.

You must not come around here on Friday’s for Jpav’s Top 10 vids on some adult porn site.

I should amend my comment to read: “What is most often posted online publicly (e.g. Facebook, MySpace) is erotica …”

Noodleman, I wouldn’t say the whole Mileygate thing is porn, either, but it’s interesting how many teen stars are posing for covers of more adult oriented fashion mags like Vanity Fair. When I was a girl, these stars were mostly on Seventeen and Jane, and I would almost never see them posing in a revealing outfit. I think it’s definately the start of a trend.

Noodleman: I guess you haven’t checked your junk mail folder or spam filters for a while.

“IMHO, what is most often posted online is erotica, not porn per se. Nothing hard-core; just tease.”

O RLY?

Oh, I missed your follow up.

Yeah, I would agree with you. But then, bear in mind that the “erotica” you’re talking about is just part of a map that includes Paris Hilton’s successful career founded on a porn tape, 2 girls and 1 cup, and unsolicited hardcore spam. I don’t think it’s been easier to access porn of any variety, and I think it’s having an affect.

who saw Transformers?
For those who did, remember the girl in that film who was really made to look hot with skimpy outfits? The weird part is that she was playing the role of a high school student, but she was in the film as a scantily clad hottie. I though that was sort of weird, that the directors intended grown men like me to see her as a desirable woman.
I was like “wow, look at her…oh wait…”
The lines are becoming a bit blurred, I do think.

The difficult question I cannot begin to answer for everyone is where ‘porn culture’ and ‘healthy human sexuality’ diverge. I know where my boundaries are, but I would not presume to dictate to others. Unfortunately the pervasiveness(broader distribution) of porn makes the decision just as much prohibition or lesser availability does.

The difficult question I cannot begin to answer for everyone is where ‘porn culture’ and ‘healthy human sexuality’ diverge.

Which is why the Supreme Court leaves it up to “community standards” to determine the level at which something becomes “obscene.” What your average Californian considers obscene can be a world away from that of a Georgian.

Porn for me is explicit hard-core sex. Unlike a former Attorney General, I do not consider naked statues to be porn or obscene.

The old I know it when I see it ruling. Good times…

And the winner:

5) Hooray for boobs!!!