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		<title>By: noodleman</title>
		<link>http://www.secretsofthecity.com/mnspeak/12256#comment-216228</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Mar 2009 00:58:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When did they stop teaching how to create paragraphs?</description>
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		<title>By: collegefreshmanfromthesouth</title>
		<link>http://www.secretsofthecity.com/mnspeak/12256#comment-216225</link>
		<dc:creator>collegefreshmanfromthesouth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Mar 2009 23:28:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also it&#039;s kind of weird that at the same time blonde haired girls/prostitutes/showgirls having ties to LV all/most of their bodies are being found on I-94. Not saying it&#039;s connected but in that case it&#039;s all woman the drownings are all athletic pretty good looking college guys or maybe there&#039;s something special about Michigan or that area that draws killers to it-once again son of sam&#039;s talk of Michigan. 
Also I read somewhere that there has been a survivor of course his name wasn&#039;t released he just woke up in the river, struggled around, found his way to shore, was all muddy and crap, got to a hospital but he couldn&#039;t remember anything, once again suggesting a drug like GHB or maybe a sedative could&#039;ve been involved in all of these cases. Of course once there&#039;s more leads in these cases I think it&#039;s going to shock Americans to the core, not that it doesn&#039;t scare the shit out of people already just knowing the circumstances of all of those young guys dissapearances and in many cases a recovery of the body...and then the whole Sinsiwaw(sp.?) leading to another body thing. probably the serial killer/killers statement of &quot;oh you think these deaths are accidental well take a look at this I just led you to a body with the word Sinsiwa(sp.?) which happens to be the street right near a river where one of the guys was found later, coincidence-no way. The FBI needs to do more with this case seriously, also a lot of the public in the US(not the people living in the midwest but those in the south or central parts of the country) wouldn&#039;t even know what your talking about when you mention the   &quot;smiley face killers&quot; and I bet if the FBI opened older cases that were deemed accidental death by drowning etc. and not just in the midwest but also in Canada/around the border of Canada/hell even across the US, especially in the last 20 years a hell of a lot more cases would come up being connected to this. It&#039;s horrible that it took this long and thank goodness for those 2 retired NYPD guys to actually examine things and say hmm this isn&#039;t right, besides I can understand accidental drowning but not in these cases, in fact there could be multiple people/killers involved in this, and of course the water destroys a lot things including dna. If these cases are ever solved/closed that would be a huge mystery solved and the families would finally have closure and I for one think that that would be a really great thing, but who knows the statistics on this being solved and when it is solved knowing just how many people were murdered, it could be in the hundreds for all we know. Personally I think to do those horrible things to those young men you have to be on a power trip and probably be a really narcisistic bastard, or maybe not maybe all the killers are really cowards, we&#039;ll never know that either but what we do know is that there&#039;s still missing young men whose disappearances are thought to be linked to this but they haven&#039;t been found in rivers or lakes and those are the families that I really feel for the not knowing if their alive, thinking they could be dead,etc. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also it&#8217;s kind of weird that at the same time blonde haired girls/prostitutes/showgirls having ties to LV all/most of their bodies are being found on I-94. Not saying it&#8217;s connected but in that case it&#8217;s all woman the drownings are all athletic pretty good looking college guys or maybe there&#8217;s something special about Michigan or that area that draws killers to it-once again son of sam&#8217;s talk of Michigan.<br />
Also I read somewhere that there has been a survivor of course his name wasn&#8217;t released he just woke up in the river, struggled around, found his way to shore, was all muddy and crap, got to a hospital but he couldn&#8217;t remember anything, once again suggesting a drug like GHB or maybe a sedative could&#8217;ve been involved in all of these cases. Of course once there&#8217;s more leads in these cases I think it&#8217;s going to shock Americans to the core, not that it doesn&#8217;t scare the shit out of people already just knowing the circumstances of all of those young guys dissapearances and in many cases a recovery of the body&#8230;and then the whole Sinsiwaw(sp.?) leading to another body thing. probably the serial killer/killers statement of &#8220;oh you think these deaths are accidental well take a look at this I just led you to a body with the word Sinsiwa(sp.?) which happens to be the street right near a river where one of the guys was found later, coincidence-no way. The FBI needs to do more with this case seriously, also a lot of the public in the US(not the people living in the midwest but those in the south or central parts of the country) wouldn&#8217;t even know what your talking about when you mention the   &#8220;smiley face killers&#8221; and I bet if the FBI opened older cases that were deemed accidental death by drowning etc. and not just in the midwest but also in Canada/around the border of Canada/hell even across the US, especially in the last 20 years a hell of a lot more cases would come up being connected to this. It&#8217;s horrible that it took this long and thank goodness for those 2 retired NYPD guys to actually examine things and say hmm this isn&#8217;t right, besides I can understand accidental drowning but not in these cases, in fact there could be multiple people/killers involved in this, and of course the water destroys a lot things including dna. If these cases are ever solved/closed that would be a huge mystery solved and the families would finally have closure and I for one think that that would be a really great thing, but who knows the statistics on this being solved and when it is solved knowing just how many people were murdered, it could be in the hundreds for all we know. Personally I think to do those horrible things to those young men you have to be on a power trip and probably be a really narcisistic bastard, or maybe not maybe all the killers are really cowards, we&#8217;ll never know that either but what we do know is that there&#8217;s still missing young men whose disappearances are thought to be linked to this but they haven&#8217;t been found in rivers or lakes and those are the families that I really feel for the not knowing if their alive, thinking they could be dead,etc.</p>
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		<title>By: collegefreshmanfromthesouth</title>
		<link>http://www.secretsofthecity.com/mnspeak/12256#comment-216224</link>
		<dc:creator>collegefreshmanfromthesouth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Mar 2009 22:53:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What about all those guys missing from British Columbia that have very similar demographics plus there&#039;s more than smiley faces there&#039;s writings that point to a group/cult,etc. some of it seems to point to native american writings (like quotes from a book, forgot the author but I found it on a website that had a lot of pictures of the &quot;smiley face killers&quot; symbols, not just the smilies, which personally remind me of son of sam for some reason) but that could all be a rouse/distraction, search for it on google/youtube/wikipedia. All the evidence is so overwhelming and that there&#039;s connections all across states, particurally La Crosse,WI. There&#039;s some evidence that the killings go back before ten years ago, also there was one thing I heard was that the same time Chris Jenkins went missing on the same weekend one in NY who was actually originally from MN and then Chris Jenkins-pretty sure it was Chris Jenkins if he was the one wearing the Native American costume for Halloween, many sources suggest that maybe it had to do with the Halloween costume. There&#039;s so many theories including that the young men had been stalked without them knowing it since a lot of their academic lives our similar. Also not all of the victim&#039;s were white and I think that it&#039;s more than one killer that they&#039;re all interconnected and that as the years past their perfecting their techniques so to speak.BY the way this is from a freshman college student who is interested in Criminology and has been watching America&#039;s Most Wanted and court tv/tru tv for over 13 years now. Also some of the streets have something in common I think it&#039;s where some (or maybe just 2 can&#039;t quite remember&quot; of  the guys go missing the street name has the word &quot;high&quot; in it. and then there&#039;s the Sinsinawa that can be taken as that or as an anagram of some sort with the words sin. And then of course there&#039;s the anticapitalist route, maybe all these men represent something that the killers hate such as capitalism in America. Anyway odds are that those killers haven&#039;t just killed in the Midwest region or Canada but as years go by have gotten bolder in their killings. What do you all think?
-Charleston Girl.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What about all those guys missing from British Columbia that have very similar demographics plus there&#8217;s more than smiley faces there&#8217;s writings that point to a group/cult,etc. some of it seems to point to native american writings (like quotes from a book, forgot the author but I found it on a website that had a lot of pictures of the &#8220;smiley face killers&#8221; symbols, not just the smilies, which personally remind me of son of sam for some reason) but that could all be a rouse/distraction, search for it on google/youtube/wikipedia. All the evidence is so overwhelming and that there&#8217;s connections all across states, particurally La Crosse,WI. There&#8217;s some evidence that the killings go back before ten years ago, also there was one thing I heard was that the same time Chris Jenkins went missing on the same weekend one in NY who was actually originally from MN and then Chris Jenkins-pretty sure it was Chris Jenkins if he was the one wearing the Native American costume for Halloween, many sources suggest that maybe it had to do with the Halloween costume. There&#8217;s so many theories including that the young men had been stalked without them knowing it since a lot of their academic lives our similar. Also not all of the victim&#8217;s were white and I think that it&#8217;s more than one killer that they&#8217;re all interconnected and that as the years past their perfecting their techniques so to speak.BY the way this is from a freshman college student who is interested in Criminology and has been watching America&#8217;s Most Wanted and court tv/tru tv for over 13 years now. Also some of the streets have something in common I think it&#8217;s where some (or maybe just 2 can&#8217;t quite remember&#8221; of  the guys go missing the street name has the word &#8220;high&#8221; in it. and then there&#8217;s the Sinsinawa that can be taken as that or as an anagram of some sort with the words sin. And then of course there&#8217;s the anticapitalist route, maybe all these men represent something that the killers hate such as capitalism in America. Anyway odds are that those killers haven&#8217;t just killed in the Midwest region or Canada but as years go by have gotten bolder in their killings. What do you all think?<br />
-Charleston Girl.</p>
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		<title>By: concerned </title>
		<link>http://www.secretsofthecity.com/mnspeak/12256#comment-167701</link>
		<dc:creator>concerned </dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 02:05:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have no problem believing that young men are getting too drunk and dying tragic deaths without it being a mass murder case. If you&#039;ve worked in a college dorm, you see it every night of the week. Instead of pouring money into this investigation, there is a lot more we can do to help these kids realize their behavior is self-destructive and find out why they are drinking so much in the first place.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have no problem believing that young men are getting too drunk and dying tragic deaths without it being a mass murder case. If you&#8217;ve worked in a college dorm, you see it every night of the week. Instead of pouring money into this investigation, there is a lot more we can do to help these kids realize their behavior is self-destructive and find out why they are drinking so much in the first place.</p>
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		<title>By: dave279</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 23:33:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>plain jane-your &quot;truth&quot; is purely your speculation and it is clear that you are the one in denial. Just because the case was changed to homicide does not mean there is a band of serial killers running a muck.  I&#039;ve read the case reports---there is little to support that this case is even a homicide.  GHB? Where did you come up with this one? And his blood alcohol level was not that high? Um, yeah after four months in a frozen river--Quit watching CSI and believing what privately hired (and paid) &quot;detectives&quot; are saying; maybe then you can know the &quot;truth&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>plain jane-your &#8220;truth&#8221; is purely your speculation and it is clear that you are the one in denial. Just because the case was changed to homicide does not mean there is a band of serial killers running a muck.  I&#8217;ve read the case reports&#8212;there is little to support that this case is even a homicide.  GHB? Where did you come up with this one? And his blood alcohol level was not that high? Um, yeah after four months in a frozen river&#8211;Quit watching CSI and believing what privately hired (and paid) &#8220;detectives&#8221; are saying; maybe then you can know the &#8220;truth&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Plain Jane</title>
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		<dc:creator>Plain Jane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 05:01:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow. You guys in the Midwest are awfully sensitive. Here in Philly you can dress like an Indian and stick feathers up your ass and no one would find that &quot;culturally insensitive&quot;. It is what Indians wore-BFD-it is no more insensitive then dressing like Ben Franklin and wearing a white wig. Chris Jenkins was murdered, probably given GHB or some other such drug-his blood alcohol was not that high and he was never kicked out of the club-read the police reports. He wasn&#039;t despondent and Idoubt that he wanted to go swimming. If it feels better to live in denial, then go for it, it doesn&#039;t change the truth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow. You guys in the Midwest are awfully sensitive. Here in Philly you can dress like an Indian and stick feathers up your ass and no one would find that &#8220;culturally insensitive&#8221;. It is what Indians wore-BFD-it is no more insensitive then dressing like Ben Franklin and wearing a white wig. Chris Jenkins was murdered, probably given GHB or some other such drug-his blood alcohol was not that high and he was never kicked out of the club-read the police reports. He wasn&#8217;t despondent and Idoubt that he wanted to go swimming. If it feels better to live in denial, then go for it, it doesn&#8217;t change the truth.</p>
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		<title>By: kg</title>
		<link>http://www.secretsofthecity.com/mnspeak/12256#comment-160609</link>
		<dc:creator>kg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 May 2008 06:58:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ditto&lt;br /&gt;
or in your speak: dotto ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ditto<br />
or in your speak: dotto <img src='http://www.secretsofthecity.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: chump</title>
		<link>http://www.secretsofthecity.com/mnspeak/12256#comment-160601</link>
		<dc:creator>chump</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 May 2008 02:40:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey KG....I laugh in your general direction(hah)...Your response proves that I&#039;ve obviously hit a nerve.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey KG&#8230;.I laugh in your general direction(hah)&#8230;Your response proves that I&#8217;ve obviously hit a nerve.</p>
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		<title>By: dumtexan</title>
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		<dc:creator>dumtexan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 09:26:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is my understanding that the theory about Chris Jenkins being driven around and tortured for four hours came from a previous detective the family hired.&lt;br /&gt;
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This detective used two different blood hounds on two different days within a week of the disappearance to trace Jenkins&#039;s scent to an underground parking garage near the bar. On another website, I read that he was possibly suffocated with saran wrap and this is why there was little water in his lungs.&lt;br /&gt;
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After the Jenkins family&#039;s investigation gained publicity, the NY detectives contacted them, because they saw similarities between the Jenkins case and their own case from 1997 (Patrick McNeill) and hoped to make a connection.&lt;br /&gt;
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The motive of the detectives, according to most reports, is to fulfill a promise Gannon made to McNeill&#039;s mother that he would find McNeill&#039;s killer. It is also my understanding that they do not accept money from the victims&#039; families.&lt;br /&gt;
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My personal opinion is that the detectives are grasping at straws with the smiley face angle (although I may change my mind if they ever present their evidence), but if the publicity they are getting leads to further investigation into all of these alleged drownings they will have accomplished something.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is my understanding that the theory about Chris Jenkins being driven around and tortured for four hours came from a previous detective the family hired.</p>
<p>This detective used two different blood hounds on two different days within a week of the disappearance to trace Jenkins&#8217;s scent to an underground parking garage near the bar. On another website, I read that he was possibly suffocated with saran wrap and this is why there was little water in his lungs.</p>
<p>After the Jenkins family&#8217;s investigation gained publicity, the NY detectives contacted them, because they saw similarities between the Jenkins case and their own case from 1997 (Patrick McNeill) and hoped to make a connection.</p>
<p>The motive of the detectives, according to most reports, is to fulfill a promise Gannon made to McNeill&#8217;s mother that he would find McNeill&#8217;s killer. It is also my understanding that they do not accept money from the victims&#8217; families.</p>
<p>My personal opinion is that the detectives are grasping at straws with the smiley face angle (although I may change my mind if they ever present their evidence), but if the publicity they are getting leads to further investigation into all of these alleged drownings they will have accomplished something.</p>
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		<title>By: kg</title>
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		<dc:creator>kg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 08:23:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>More on the incompetence of the police and FBI in the Dahmer case: www.crimelibrary.com/serial_killers/notorious/dahmer/2.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>More on the incompetence of the police and FBI in the Dahmer case: <a href="http://www.crimelibrary.com/serial_killers/notorious/dahmer/2.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.crimelibrary.com/serial_killers/notorious/dahmer/2.html</a></p>
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