In Stephen Marsh’s recent “Morning After” column, he discussed the Current’s Fakebook series, with some flattering words (”For the last couple of years, Fakebook has been the perfectly programmed series, bringing in writers who appeal to the ideal Current listener, the literate indie-rock lover.”), but some not-so-flattering words about it’s host, Mary Lucia: Basically, she has a conventional sense of humor that works great when she’s plowing through a list of questions intended to shake something novel out of a guitar player. But put her in front of an intellectual with impeccable comic timing, and Lucia comes off as rote. His comments have caused a bit of a stink, as they often do.
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3:45 pm
Is it a surprise that Steve Marsh wrote something stupid? He is after all the person who intimated that the new Tapes ‘n Tapes album is as good as Let It Be. People, stop paying attention to him and hope he goes away
3:47 pm
He articulated his points pretty well in the story. What, specifically, do you think was stupid about them?
3:53 pm
Fuck you, Westerberg.
4:01 pm
Props on the “Stephen” though, Max. Love that. Reminds me of Mrs. Flaspeter.
That’s a good thing.
4:14 pm
I don’t believe Marsh ever answered my question (in some arts thread about the Tapes n Tapes) about what band he would go gay for. Inquiring minds need to know.
4:18 pm
“Gus Triandos.”
Noel, Liam, an eight ball and a bottle of Johnson’s & Johnson’s. And maybe Kate Moss? Or is that cheating?
Srsly, nobody has any thoughts on Mary Lucia? There’s no MNSpeak, Mary Lucia overlap? I refuse to believe that. Is everybody suntanning already?
4:28 pm
Vegas odds: 3-1 that Lucia kicks Marsh’s ass and takes his milk money in a playground brawl.
4:30 pm
Steve: lay off the people that are actually trying to make this city a better place.
4:30 pm
I read somewhere that people don’t listen to the Current anymore. Maybe it was here.
4:31 pm
Mark Mallman has spoken for us already:
4:31 pm
lighten up. marsh is funny sometimes. i dont always agree with him, but he’s worth a laugh.
4:38 pm
Oh, easy there, JD. Sanctimony is like the anchor desk: it doesn’t suit you.
Are you sure you read the whole thing? If Mary would just listen to me, St. Paul would have the perfect book event. We’re so close!
4:39 pm
It sucks to ruin jokes by having to explain them. Maybe if you read the comments on your MSP entry, you’d see that I was quoting.
4:40 pm
If Mary would just listen to me
She probably stopped listening after you called her dumb.
4:42 pm
Jason, jokes relly only get better once they’re explained.
(that’s what I keep telling myself)
4:42 pm
I was joking back, dude. We were “riffing.” Now you fucked it all up. What’s going to happen when Rosen throws it back to you? Things move a lot faster at 10pm, man.
4:43 pm
@Stevemarsh/JDerusha, keep up your bickering. I think this has all the makings of a CJ scoop!
4:43 pm
PLEASE! Does anyone take Marsh seriously? Is he even relevant anymore? He’s talking about Oasis being his favorite band, for christ sakes. How old is this guy? He writes this shit just to perpetuate his image; if he started being a grown up nobody would notice him.
4:44 pm
no, marsh — jd was totally playing along and moved it to a meta level, now you egged it all up! jesus people, if you would just show up at rehearsal…
4:44 pm
Evidently, JACC doesn’t have much experience with women.
Stopped listening after I called her dumb. Listen, did you skip grade school or what? How did you learn how to use the internet after such terrible home schooling?
4:47 pm
u guys fall for it every time when marsh says/does something that makes you mad. my mom always told me to just ignore boys that i don’t like.
4:48 pm
Listen, Paul, this “puzzler” and “a.people” gambit is just silly at this point. I’m not Ryan Adams. I’m not going to punch you in the mouth or something. Besides, this is all happening on a screen.
4:49 pm
And I bet you listened to mommy; didn’t you, you little no wonder you. What did mommy say about anonymous screen names?
Morons!
Where’s scrote? Bring in the bullpen. I’m done.
4:50 pm
In conclusion, you all suck.
4:50 pm
I suck. I’m sorry. I got messed up worshipping the genius of this comment by marsh: Sanctimony is like the anchor desk: it doesn’t suit you. One of the best put-downs I’ve ever had thrown at me.
Damn it. Now I’m complimenting the insult. What’s wrong with me?
4:51 pm
Full of himself @stevemarsh pontificates “I mean, maybe she hasnt seen the Stones at Altamont, and maybe shes not a Stanford professor who can quote D.H. Lawrence off the top of her head, but shes been backstage at the Entry when Tommy threw a beer bottle at Bobby. She knows what punk rock is too. She just hasnt written the book on it.”
Is that’s how you call someone smart?
FYI, I did skip grade school and whenever I wonder about the experience I may have missed I stop by MNspeak for a Marsh quote.
4:53 pm
Damn it. Now I’m complimenting the insult. What’s wrong with me?
Could you answer that one good question?
One of the best put-downs I’ve ever had thrown at me.
Awww…I’ll give you a warm fuzzy:
WCCO HR must be terrorists because you’re da bomb!
4:53 pm
Why did you call Lucia “rote”? I don’t see how her interviewing style has anything to do with a medieval stringed instrumentvariably identified with a lyre, lute, or harp.
You should get back to writing about teeth whitening or cosmetic surgery for your little rag for Edina cougars.
4:54 pm
Jason, I think you’ve finally become one of us. And by that I mean them.
JACC, I don’t know. I was trying to flip it. Here’s how I call somebody stupid though.
4:55 pm
It only took JD three minutes to use google! Looks like he doesn’t have to worry about his budget number for awhile.
4:57 pm
I had to google 90% of your review because I didn’t know what the hell you were talking about.
4:59 pm
@stevemarsh – Speaking of women. Don’t you have some hottie you should be tending?
Oh wait.
Stevemarsh knows all about women. He just hasn’t written the book on it.
4:59 pm
Oooh, snap!
Go ahead, I’ll wait. It’s not new slang though.
4:59 pm
Would you guys stop flirting and just kiss?
5:00 pm
This is better than Wilmer Valeramma’s hit show “Yo Mama”!
And by “hit”, I mean “miss”.
5:01 pm
What are we talking about again? A three-week old review? Lucia?
There was another Fakebook Saturday night with Chuck D and Brother Ali.
Anyone?
5:01 pm
Damnit, JACC. Don’t you know when to sit back and chill with the rest of my greek chorus? Salting my game with the only other name on the board today.
5:02 pm
Oh, it’s up.
http://msp.blogs.com/themorningafter/2008/04/41908-the-curre.html
5:02 pm
Here, if you’re lazy.
5:06 pm
What were you drinking while you filed that review?
5:07 pm
Yeah, since when did Marsh ditch the hard stuff for a stale cup of passive aggressive?
5:09 pm
dude, oasis are awesome.
5:10 pm
OK, so now what is the point, here? That reviewers are supposed to like everything the audience likes or hate everything the audience hates. It’s just one person’s opinion, right?
In theory — and, man, this really IS theory — it’s supposed to lead to an intelligent conversation about the salient points.
I just read last week… somewhere (Romanesko?) that arts reviewers are dropping like flies. Is it because we’ve become accusomed in discourse now where we don’t consider other views… that we only want to be exposed to views that match our own?
I’m sorry if this is off topic but I couldn’t really figure out what the topic is.
5:22 pm
OK, so now what is the point, here?
Certain people, that shall remain unnamed, think that Steve Marsh should be running the Fakebook series.
5:24 pm
God help us all.
5:25 pm
Yeah, okay Marsh, there’s only one person out here in the world who thinks you’re as dated and worn as an old dollar bill. You try too hard- so hard- to be current and relevant, and you just look silly. Jealous of people who get more attention?
Personally, I always never liked your writing, so I don’t give a shit how you “review” anything.
5:50 pm
Hmm. I thought the very raison d’etre of a critic was to be, you know, critical.
6:22 pm
Just now reading the two Marsh columns and they’re brilliant. I wish I could be as funny disagreeing.
Only quibble, Steve: I’m pretty sure Greil used that Lenin quote to say he wasn’t like Lenin, rather than that he was.
6:41 pm
He doesn’t like beer?
6:45 pm
Roughly 30% of the comments thus far as Marsh’s … perhaps he should lay down his ego and step away from the keyboard for awhile … silly attention whore …
7:00 pm
He doesn’t like beer?
He likes bourbon. Or Campari. Or both — he drinks experimentally.
7:16 pm
My bartender is responsible for roughly 1% of the comments on here.
7:49 pm
Sorry y’all. You’re on your own. I have a blonde to attend to. And I am wound up after a Forgetting Sarah Marshall/Mnspeak/Gossip Girl tripleheader!
7:55 pm
I’d long thought that the Strib’s CJ was the Twin Cities’ most obnoxious columnist, but Marsh has upstaged her in that regard. Having stated that, I’ll say no more; absolutely don’t want to feed his attention-craving addiction anymore than I already have here. (Anyway, Sparber seems to have an unlimited supply of willingness to publicize his pal Steve, so here at MNSpeak surely there’ll be no shortage of continuing attention devoted to Marsh’s pathetic antics.)
8:01 pm
That’s true. I plan to continue MnSpeak’s devotion to Marsh’s pathetic antics.
8:44 pm
The Rat told me that if you’re gonna ignore someone, you shouldn’t tell them you’re ignoring them.
1:26 pm
Who is Steve Marsh, besides an insecure asshole? Never heard of him.
1:28 pm
There is a link above to his story and blog. Go ahead and click on it. Then you will know who he is.
Usually, it’s good form to click on the links before you comment.
5:18 pm
My husband, 13 year old kid, and I went to Saturday’s Fakebook show.
In the words of my bored and cynical kid “it was awesome”. We loved all of it – listening to Chuck talk about – oh, about anything – and Brother Ali and Slug put on a great show. well worth the price of admission.
5:50 pm
FYI, Mary Lucia just won City Page Reader’s Choice (FM Personality)
6:02 pm
Bob, for some reason, only part of your News Cut URL shows up with your name… you should just register.
6:05 pm
Mary Lucia just won City Page Reader’s Choice (FM Personality)
Personally I like Mary Lucia, however many of the ‘Readers’ Choice’ awards handed out by the City Pages end up being pretty awful picks.
6:09 pm
//Bob, for some reason, only part of your News Cut URL shows up with your name…
I did. Unfortunately, MNSpeak has a very lame — and very short — character limit on the field so I didn’t notice it. I’ve “tinyURLed” it instead.
7:32 pm
Eichten wuz robbed.
7:41 pm
sorry i missed this one. In the Sonoran Desert observing Passover & couldn’t get a signal. i’m betting marsh’s original critic drives a subaru…or even worse, a bike. just sayin’.
7:49 pm
sorry i missed this one. In the Sonoran Desert observing Passover & couldn’t get a signal.
Wait, you’re black?!