Secrets of the City

Magnets is always welcome to simply come over and explain to me the proper techniques, or use visual aids. There is no censorship at Casa Ultramax.

I find this whole thing a little hard to swallow….

jeez, even Uncle Ethanol is randy today. Spring is in the air…

Swallow. Bacon.

What? I should spring into the air? You’d like that, wouldn’t you…

Considering her columns on Anal sex etc maybe she wasn’t censored.

It’s possible her tutorial was all wrong.

A video post would clear this all up.

Me being a dirty old man is bad enough… I think I’m repulsed by Bob being a dirty older man.

I think everyone just needs to loosen up a little bit.

Quick! Give her a book deal and an oscar!

Women aren’t still giving blow jobs are they? How gauche.

Incidentally, I have an exclusive copy the censored column, and I’ll be posting it on my blog later today.

Not really. Well, I do have the column. Seeing as I didn’t think there was a line for Alexis to cross, it’s hard to imagine why this one tripped someone’s “I’m offended” button.

For the love of god
everyone loves getting head
let her put it in print
losers
as far as i am concerned
this is the last straw
if you don’t print the story
our days of reading vita.mn are over

really, we mean it
unless you run the story
lux is leaving and
everyone here is going with her
so there!

There is no censorship at Casa Ultramax

Does that mean that Alexis can link to the meth recipe again?

As I understand it, Vita.mn has an editor filling in for the usual one this week, and it was the temporary editor’s call.

She can link to it, she just can’t post it in entirety, as she did.

So, there is a little censorship.

By Casa UltraMax, I meant my apartment, not MnSpeak. It’s a no-holds-barred 24-hour-pornathon here.

I was in Montana last weekend, and for some reason, this image seems apropos to the topic at hand. Perhaps I just have a corrupt thinking process…

OK – that makes more sense. Can Alexis make meth in your kitchen?

Can she ever!

Douglas…all I can think of when I see that photo is…LOCKJAW

it’s hard to imagine why this one tripped someone’s “I’m offended” button.

The easy button was busy with the shocker.

Perhaps Alexis’s problem was an insufficient understanding of the difference between innuendo and outright bawdiness (NSFW!):

Spits or swallows, baby?

Copyright: Austin Powers

Dude, someone get bud a prostitute, STAT! I can’t take anymore of the poorly worded sexual innuendo.

what about clever inneundo?

because I’m on top of that.

clever is fine. It’s important to not come off like a scary creep…

also now that I’ve reached the ripe old age of 25, can I be a dirty old man yet?
Or am I still firmly in pervy young man territory?

I don’t know wayne, ask grote. He would know.

Take a stroll through the U of M campus on a hot September afternoon and you’ll have your answer.

oh I’ve taken so many strolls all around the U campus and surrounding college residential environs.

Censored by fiat, Lux?

I crack me up.

so where is the link? i can’t find it. I want to see if it is right
I should probably not read it at work anyways, huh?

Somehow this thread reminds me of the old joke about how Nixon saw Deep Throat 10 times but he still couldn’t get it down Pat.

People, people. Censoring is what governments do. If you work for someone, you have NO free speech. If Max wants to write that the Bartels can go pee under toadstool, they can say no, and fire him. If you work at a publication, changing or eliminating your words is called…editing. See her boss’s note at the end. Apparently she was, gasp! edited.

The Bartels don’t have to ask Max to pee under a toadstool, because they own all the toadstools.

Too narrow suckit.

From Merriam-webster:
Main Entry: 2 censor
Function: transitive verb
Inflected Form(s): cen·sored; cen·sor·ing Listen to the pronunciation of censoring \Èsen(t)-sY-riK, Èsen(t)s-riK\
Date: 1882
: to examine in order to suppress or delete anything considered objectionable ; also : to suppress or delete as objectionable

Nothing specific to government. Companies, editors and individuals are capable of censorship.

You are correct, however, that government censorship is the only form we have significant protection from.

And your definition of edit is too broad. Again from M-W:

Main Entry: 1 ed·it
1 a: to prepare (as literary material) for publication or public presentation b: to assemble (as a moving picture or tape recording) by cutting and rearranging c: to alter, adapt, or refine especially to bring about conformity to a standard or to suit a particular purpose

Using “edit” to describe the suppression of an idea is a bit Orwellian.

In the words of the all mighty Salt ‘n Pepa:

Yo, Pep, I don’t think they’re gonna play this on the radio
And why not ? Everybody has sex
I mean, everybody should be makin’ love
Come on, how many guys you know make love ?

also, cocks.

Those *beep*in’ pieces of *beep* *beep* *beep* don’t know who the *beep* they are *beep*ing around with *beep* *beeeeeeeep*dirty*beep*mongers.

Fuck them.

Using “edit” to describe the suppression of an idea is a bit Orwellian.

It’s not Orwellian. Not every idea has merit. Every written word does not does not deserve to be published in any format.

The editor made a judgement call. That’s what they’re paid to do. You might not agree with it. Haven’t read it, but you can argue that the column in question probably has no redeeming social value, which has been determined by the Supreme Court as not having Constitutional protection. It’s written to titillate.

It’s not Orwellian.

Sure it is. Rejecting an entire column because of it’s subject is in no way “editing”.

Not every idea has merit. Every written word does not does not deserve to be published in any format.

No argument there.

The editor made a judgement call. That’s what they’re paid to do. You might not agree with it. Haven’t read it, but you can argue that the column in question probably has no redeeming social value, which has been determined by the Supreme Court as not having Constitutional protection. It’s written to titillate.

Not sure what the USSC has to do with anything here. As a private business, Vitamn/Strib has the right to censor its columnists any way they want. But it was still censoring, not editing. Editing would have been telling her to re-write it in some manner.

The exception I see, would be if we’re talking about a managing editor (I don’t know what the correct term would be), rather than a writer’s editor. Meaning, an editor who makes a call as to what stories make it in to the paper and which ones don’t, placement of stories, etc. Maybe that’s what applies here, but given that she is more or less guaranteed the space as a regular columnist.

Wait. It’s an entertainment site/paper for the love of gawd. It’s not an investigative news site. The “news” is purely entertainment, not breaking the lastest health care scandal.

And if you don’t think educating people about the shocker isn’t socially redeeming, well, I would rethink your priorities:0).

The shocker column already ran so it was published then pulled. Isn’t that’s censorship? It does surprise me that they thought it was too much for the readers. It seems as if strib is still trying to figure out who they want as an audience. They want it all, but are still operating old skool. What applies in the paper doesn’t always apply in Vita.mn.

Someone is clearly not eating enough bacon and taking himself/herself way too seriously.

Oh, the horror!

We have free-speech advocates who honestly believe a step-by-step guide to fellatio is proper reading material for about anyone who happens upon it regardless of age.

Of you I would ask: do you feel comfortable knowing that your teenage (or younger) daughter would be reading a fellatio manual in unrestricted form?

Sorry, but free speech is not an absolute right. IMHO the editor made the correct call. Or do you also feel comfortable knowing that 7-year old girls are getting bikini waxes and that 12 is an appropriate age to be considering a boob job?

By the same argument, one supposes all books, magazines, and movies also have to be appropriate for children lest they happen across it… but why stretch it that way? The web is a good place for grown-ups to talk about grown-up things, and there’s no need to keep it all kid-friendly.

I wonder what exactly a 7-year-old would be waxing? Oh, it doesn’t matter. The “I bet you also–” argument is lame tho.

By the same argument, one supposes all books, magazines, and movies also have to be appropriate for children lest they happen across it…

Yes, of course. The same considerations do extend to print and film media. And they are, to a more certain degree, made less accessible to minors. You won’t find Hustler for sale next to Family Circle at the grocery store. You won’t find R or NC-17 movies for rent at Blockbuster or RedBox. Is that censorship? I think not. The “adult” material is available, in great volume, elsewhere. Just, maybe, not where it might be most convenient for *you* to rent or purchase.

The interweb sure complicates the question of access. However, anything Alexis wrote can already be found elsewhere, too. But one has to make an effort to go looking for it.

Still, I ask this question of anyone who feels the Alexis’ fellatio manual should have been published in vita.mn: How would you feel knowing your 10-year daughter or 9-year old son had read it?

If you are concerned about children reading graphic descriptions of oral sex, it might be wise to steer them clear of the local bookstore of library.

Also, you are failing to distinguish between text and image, noodleman. Yes, porn films are kept from children. But I recall reading some very graphic material when I was young, all found, in easy access, in the fiction section of my area bookstore.

You won’t find R or NC-17 movies for rent at Blockbuster or RedBox.

I don’t know about Redbox, but you can rent R rated and unrated movies from Blockbuster. Blockbuster was the original exclusive distributer for The Red Shoe Diaries, a Showtime soft core porn series.

Still, I ask this question of anyone who feels the Alexis’ fellatio manual should have been published in vita.mn: How would you feel knowing your 10-year daughter or 9-year old son had read it?

How many 9/10 year olds are going to be alone in a place where they can grab a copy of vita.mn? The places I’ve seen it available are not places 9/10 year olds can easily get to. And, of course, I don’t know of any 9/10 year olds that are going to be interested in Vita.mn any way.

There is no place for this type of “journalism” in the mainstream media.

I now once again feel compelled to mention “Withering Glance”.

it’s an editor’s job to edit, kill or run with items. when you have their experience, you can get a job doing the same.

on the subject matter, however, i think that everyone who is practicing safe and consensual sex should have a manual on how to properly give/receive oral sex. why wouldn’t you want to continue your education?

I keep meaning to ask this; What makes Alexis an expert on the subjuct of sex? Does she have some sort of degree or is she just kind of slutty? Cause if that’s the case, shit, I’ve got some advice too.

One of them being that shocker photos are always funny. Just don’t try it on my butt.

Yeah I’ve wondered about her too.
She’s entertaining and everything, but “expert”?
She’s an “expert” in straight vanilla, but that’s about it.

Of you I would ask: do you feel comfortable knowing that your teenage (or younger) daughter would be reading a fellatio manual in unrestricted form?

Well, considering the fact that she has ostensibly already consumed uncensored material related to the reverse (both partner-wise and -um- geography-wise) in this column, I would say: yes.

It’s important to be well-rounded in one’s education, right?

Just don’t try it on my butt.

What about your vag? Cause sister, been there done that.

This thread is starting to get hot.

mb has been drinking

and is naked.

you forgot to mention the baby oil

And who said marriage is boring?

The circus midgets we keep in the bedroom closet seem entertained on a regular basis…

As long as they know how to give head properly, I see nothing wrong with it.

Yup. We keep them on a liquid diet so no worrying about chewing problems.

OMG, you win, mb!

LOL!

I’ve always said that an erotic circus midget on a liquid diet is a happy erotic circus midget.

We all need to do our part to ensure that erotic circus midgets aren’t treated with cruelty.

That’s why all of mine are organic and free range erotic circus midgets.

You ladies really know how to put the or-g in organic.

1. Ranty, long time no see.

2. You know where the only source of sex advice for kids should be? Sex and the Ivy.
Ask Alie, it’s her favorite site…EVAR!