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		<title>By: asb</title>
		<link>http://www.secretsofthecity.com/mnspeak/12027#comment-149598</link>
		<dc:creator>asb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Mar 2008 21:31:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well...that could explain Miller Light.  Bad water?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well&#8230;that could explain Miller Light.  Bad water?</p>
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		<title>By: sankmyshipinNewcastle</title>
		<link>http://www.secretsofthecity.com/mnspeak/12027#comment-149597</link>
		<dc:creator>sankmyshipinNewcastle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Mar 2008 21:29:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A guy from Newcastle once told me that people in Newcastle hate Newcastle.  He said the wa&#039;er&#039;s bad; gives the ale it&#039;s brown colour.  &lt;br /&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A guy from Newcastle once told me that people in Newcastle hate Newcastle.  He said the wa&#8217;er&#8217;s bad; gives the ale it&#8217;s brown colour.  </p>
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		<title>By: asb</title>
		<link>http://www.secretsofthecity.com/mnspeak/12027#comment-149594</link>
		<dc:creator>asb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Mar 2008 21:14:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Damn text.  Never gets that tone quite right.  :)  I&#039;m just glad you didn&#039;t refer to yourself as a &quot;foodie&quot;.  Lets see... the first Surly I had (I believe it was the Bender but am not positive) was certainly way too bitter for me.  It also did seem rather thin for a darker beer.  It seemed like Newcastle with a hangover.  The flavor just didn&#039;t seem right, honestly I don&#039;t remember it much as I have avoided it ever since.  It tasted...the best way I can describe it is to compare it to coffee that has been sitting too long.  It could have been great coffee, but just seems stale and burnt.  This was when Surly was BRAND new on tap.  I didn&#039;t find the brews in Washington to be too hoppy at all, they have some of my favorite little micro brews there.  Maybe thats why I took your tone as so serious. ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Damn text.  Never gets that tone quite right.  <img src='http://www.secretsofthecity.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />   I&#8217;m just glad you didn&#8217;t refer to yourself as a &#8220;foodie&#8221;.  Lets see&#8230; the first Surly I had (I believe it was the Bender but am not positive) was certainly way too bitter for me.  It also did seem rather thin for a darker beer.  It seemed like Newcastle with a hangover.  The flavor just didn&#8217;t seem right, honestly I don&#8217;t remember it much as I have avoided it ever since.  It tasted&#8230;the best way I can describe it is to compare it to coffee that has been sitting too long.  It could have been great coffee, but just seems stale and burnt.  This was when Surly was BRAND new on tap.  I didn&#8217;t find the brews in Washington to be too hoppy at all, they have some of my favorite little micro brews there.  Maybe thats why I took your tone as so serious. <img src='http://www.secretsofthecity.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Lunch!</title>
		<link>http://www.secretsofthecity.com/mnspeak/12027#comment-149590</link>
		<dc:creator>Lunch!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Mar 2008 20:58:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Wow. Take Surly personally much? Maybe thats where the name came from. I love ellipses... Love...Love...Love...&lt;br /&gt;
Just personal taste. Not picking on Surly...&lt;/em&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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I&#039;m sorry my written communication did not convey the light tone I was going for.  But, like some people like film, sports or fashion or food, I like beer.  So when someone says they do not enjoy products from a brewery I enjoy, I just want to know why...in concrete terms...too much bitterness...or too much sweetness...thin mouthfeel...yeasty...strange metallic taste...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Wow. Take Surly personally much? Maybe thats where the name came from. I love ellipses&#8230; Love&#8230;Love&#8230;Love&#8230;<br />
Just personal taste. Not picking on Surly&#8230;</em></p>
<p>I&#8217;m sorry my written communication did not convey the light tone I was going for.  But, like some people like film, sports or fashion or food, I like beer.  So when someone says they do not enjoy products from a brewery I enjoy, I just want to know why&#8230;in concrete terms&#8230;too much bitterness&#8230;or too much sweetness&#8230;thin mouthfeel&#8230;yeasty&#8230;strange metallic taste&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: asb</title>
		<link>http://www.secretsofthecity.com/mnspeak/12027#comment-149568</link>
		<dc:creator>asb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Mar 2008 19:32:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow.  Take Surly personally much? Maybe thats where the name came from.  I love ellipses... Love...Love...Love...&lt;br /&gt;
Just personal taste. Not picking on Surly...&lt;br /&gt;
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.... .... .... Did I mention the LOVE of ellipses?&lt;br /&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow.  Take Surly personally much? Maybe thats where the name came from.  I love ellipses&#8230; Love&#8230;Love&#8230;Love&#8230;<br />
Just personal taste. Not picking on Surly&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8230;. &#8230;. &#8230;. Did I mention the LOVE of ellipses?</p>
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		<title>By: Lunch!</title>
		<link>http://www.secretsofthecity.com/mnspeak/12027#comment-149550</link>
		<dc:creator>Lunch!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Mar 2008 18:58:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It was a bit much for me too.  I heard from a lot of folks that this was a love-hate beer.  In general I like that they let the brewer play with their anniversary beers. &lt;br /&gt;
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Has anyone tried the Flat Earth Winter Warlock?  I love that one.  It&#039;s a barleywine, but English in style, so not bitter like the American examples.  Amazing beer.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It was a bit much for me too.  I heard from a lot of folks that this was a love-hate beer.  In general I like that they let the brewer play with their anniversary beers. </p>
<p>Has anyone tried the Flat Earth Winter Warlock?  I love that one.  It&#8217;s a barleywine, but English in style, so not bitter like the American examples.  Amazing beer.</p>
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		<title>By: grote</title>
		<link>http://www.secretsofthecity.com/mnspeak/12027#comment-149549</link>
		<dc:creator>grote</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Mar 2008 18:52:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not one to complain (I love when people say that, BTW...always means the opposite), but my only complaint with Surly was that Surly Two stuff they released a few months back.  The zing of fresh cranberries overwhelmed the malts.  ew.&lt;br /&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not one to complain (I love when people say that, BTW&#8230;always means the opposite), but my only complaint with Surly was that Surly Two stuff they released a few months back.  The zing of fresh cranberries overwhelmed the malts.  ew.</p>
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		<title>By: Lunch!</title>
		<link>http://www.secretsofthecity.com/mnspeak/12027#comment-149545</link>
		<dc:creator>Lunch!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Mar 2008 18:41:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thankfully taste is subjective.  &lt;br /&gt;
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Abuse of ellipses is not.  Lacking in some way is pretty vague.  Bitter is a more objective and reasonable critique.  &lt;br /&gt;
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And usually in beer bitter = hops   Washington= hop country.  That would be a bad trade for you.   Cough syrup stout?  They only make one stout and it&#039;s in the style of a russian imperial stout, which by definition are fairly thick and bitter.  If your only experience with stouts was a dry stout like guiness or a milk stout like mackesons, I could see how you could be caught unawares.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thankfully taste is subjective.  </p>
<p>Abuse of ellipses is not.  Lacking in some way is pretty vague.  Bitter is a more objective and reasonable critique.  </p>
<p>And usually in beer bitter = hops   Washington= hop country.  That would be a bad trade for you.   Cough syrup stout?  They only make one stout and it&#8217;s in the style of a russian imperial stout, which by definition are fairly thick and bitter.  If your only experience with stouts was a dry stout like guiness or a milk stout like mackesons, I could see how you could be caught unawares.</p>
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		<title>By: ShermanB</title>
		<link>http://www.secretsofthecity.com/mnspeak/12027#comment-149540</link>
		<dc:creator>ShermanB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Mar 2008 18:16:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What she said.&lt;br /&gt;
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My first surly experience made me think of cough-syrup stout.  That may have changed though.  But maybe we could trade for a brewery in Washington.  Or at least an exchange program.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What she said.</p>
<p>My first surly experience made me think of cough-syrup stout.  That may have changed though.  But maybe we could trade for a brewery in Washington.  Or at least an exchange program.</p>
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		<title>By: asb</title>
		<link>http://www.secretsofthecity.com/mnspeak/12027#comment-149539</link>
		<dc:creator>asb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Mar 2008 18:13:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree!  I like ales in general...I just found most of  the Surly brews...well...lacking in some way...a bit to bitter for me.  I&#039;m a Double Cream Stout or Dragonstooth Ale sort of girl.  Oh and anything from Boundary Bay in Bellingham.  Maybe I tried them to early...gosh a good Oatmeal Stout sounds good... I need to have them send me a growler.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree!  I like ales in general&#8230;I just found most of  the Surly brews&#8230;well&#8230;lacking in some way&#8230;a bit to bitter for me.  I&#8217;m a Double Cream Stout or Dragonstooth Ale sort of girl.  Oh and anything from Boundary Bay in Bellingham.  Maybe I tried them to early&#8230;gosh a good Oatmeal Stout sounds good&#8230; I need to have them send me a growler.</p>
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