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		<title>By: tomf</title>
		<link>http://www.secretsofthecity.com/mnspeak/11929#comment-146531</link>
		<dc:creator>tomf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 23:44:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hold them accountable!!!  and vlado4,  please do leave the country and take your irresponsible buddies with you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hold them accountable!!!  and vlado4,  please do leave the country and take your irresponsible buddies with you.</p>
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		<title>By: cdiggity</title>
		<link>http://www.secretsofthecity.com/mnspeak/11929#comment-146366</link>
		<dc:creator>cdiggity</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Mar 2008 17:09:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also, WTF is the reason of suing the Bonding company? These parents are looking for financial gain out of their loss, and it&#039;s sick.&lt;br /&gt;
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Their daughter was a 2-bit drunk. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also, WTF is the reason of suing the Bonding company? These parents are looking for financial gain out of their loss, and it&#8217;s sick.</p>
<p>Their daughter was a 2-bit drunk.</p>
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		<title>By: cdiggity</title>
		<link>http://www.secretsofthecity.com/mnspeak/11929#comment-146365</link>
		<dc:creator>cdiggity</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Mar 2008 17:06:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Girl drank HERSELF to death. &lt;br /&gt;
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Nothing is more annoying than grieving parents having to blame others so they can keep their daughter up on a pedestal.&lt;br /&gt;
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Guess what: your daughter had an alcohol problem. She made very poor decisions that directly caused her death. Get over it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Girl drank HERSELF to death. </p>
<p>Nothing is more annoying than grieving parents having to blame others so they can keep their daughter up on a pedestal.</p>
<p>Guess what: your daughter had an alcohol problem. She made very poor decisions that directly caused her death. Get over it.</p>
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		<title>By: wannabe, esq.</title>
		<link>http://www.secretsofthecity.com/mnspeak/11929#comment-146363</link>
		<dc:creator>wannabe, esq.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Mar 2008 14:56:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Me, as wannabe lawyer: &quot;Your honor, the decedent was 21 years old. Of sound mind and body. An adult capable of making her own legal, ethical and moral decisions. No one forced her to drink anything. She held the glass to her mouth and swallowed the contents. She was aware that the contents contained alcohol. How was she aware? She&#039;d been there, in that same establishment, before. Ordering alcoholic drinks. we also have...documented history of alcohol abuse. &lt;br /&gt;
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::gasp from mother of decedent. Father of decedent shuffles feet and looks to floor.::&lt;br /&gt;
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The parents are clearly in a revengeful mode of anger and denial.  However, there is no lawsuit worthy of merit here. The girl died, and that&#039;s a shame. A true shame....But these things happen when parents do not properly warn children of the dangers of alcohol abuse before they are of legal drinking age. This is, your honor, precisely what happens.&lt;br /&gt;
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::booing noise from father of decedent. Mother audibly hisses at me. Jury nods solemnly in agreement.::&lt;br /&gt;
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Judge: Case dismissed!&lt;br /&gt;
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::bangs gavel::&lt;br /&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Me, as wannabe lawyer: &#8220;Your honor, the decedent was 21 years old. Of sound mind and body. An adult capable of making her own legal, ethical and moral decisions. No one forced her to drink anything. She held the glass to her mouth and swallowed the contents. She was aware that the contents contained alcohol. How was she aware? She&#8217;d been there, in that same establishment, before. Ordering alcoholic drinks. we also have&#8230;documented history of alcohol abuse. </p>
<p>::gasp from mother of decedent. Father of decedent shuffles feet and looks to floor.::</p>
<p>The parents are clearly in a revengeful mode of anger and denial.  However, there is no lawsuit worthy of merit here. The girl died, and that&#8217;s a shame. A true shame&#8230;.But these things happen when parents do not properly warn children of the dangers of alcohol abuse before they are of legal drinking age. This is, your honor, precisely what happens.</p>
<p>::booing noise from father of decedent. Mother audibly hisses at me. Jury nods solemnly in agreement.::</p>
<p>Judge: Case dismissed!</p>
<p>::bangs gavel::</p>
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		<title>By: ed</title>
		<link>http://www.secretsofthecity.com/mnspeak/11929#comment-146356</link>
		<dc:creator>ed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Mar 2008 06:37:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s about damm time people stand up and take responsability for their own actions.......stop blaming everyone else because you are an Idiot!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s about damm time people stand up and take responsability for their own actions&#8230;&#8230;.stop blaming everyone else because you are an Idiot!</p>
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		<title>By: aliecat</title>
		<link>http://www.secretsofthecity.com/mnspeak/11929#comment-146349</link>
		<dc:creator>aliecat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Mar 2008 05:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Vlad, I don&#039;t think you were a moron, just young.  Young people make bad choices because they think they&#039;re immortal.  Unfortunately sometimes it takes tragedy to teach a hard lesson to a few people.  It seems that you learned the lesson the easy way and you should be thankful for that.  I hope you don&#039;t feel like we were attacking you for that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vlad, I don&#8217;t think you were a moron, just young.  Young people make bad choices because they think they&#8217;re immortal.  Unfortunately sometimes it takes tragedy to teach a hard lesson to a few people.  It seems that you learned the lesson the easy way and you should be thankful for that.  I hope you don&#8217;t feel like we were attacking you for that.</p>
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		<title>By: Big G</title>
		<link>http://www.secretsofthecity.com/mnspeak/11929#comment-146327</link>
		<dc:creator>Big G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Mar 2008 00:23:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You know, most of the colleges in the state, most of them affiliated with vibrant communities that have bars and clubs, are partly to blame for the sudden disproportionate of underage drinking among campus students. Apparently, this specific bar at Mankato State University knew that they were serving excessive booze to anyone under the age of 18; the campus administrators knew that and so did the bar owners, and this gal friends themselves.&lt;br /&gt;
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Yet, I like to know where our tax money is going to higher education(both private and public) when it comes to economic stimulus from within a campus community that supports bars and clubs in the area. You tell me if campus drinking is related to the politics of college administrators in charge of our academic institution through decision making at the state capitol like the UofMN or MSU from various lobbyist groups.     </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know, most of the colleges in the state, most of them affiliated with vibrant communities that have bars and clubs, are partly to blame for the sudden disproportionate of underage drinking among campus students. Apparently, this specific bar at Mankato State University knew that they were serving excessive booze to anyone under the age of 18; the campus administrators knew that and so did the bar owners, and this gal friends themselves.</p>
<p>Yet, I like to know where our tax money is going to higher education(both private and public) when it comes to economic stimulus from within a campus community that supports bars and clubs in the area. You tell me if campus drinking is related to the politics of college administrators in charge of our academic institution through decision making at the state capitol like the UofMN or MSU from various lobbyist groups.</p>
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		<title>By: vlado4</title>
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		<dc:creator>vlado4</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Mar 2008 00:20:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Honestly, I am surprised stuff like this doesn&#039;t happen WAY more often. There is so much binging going on in colleges. &lt;br /&gt;
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If I was to be &quot;responsible&quot; and take people to the emergency room, I&#039;d be taking probably two people per night. I&#039;d probably would&#039;ve ended up there myself dozens of times during my college career.&lt;br /&gt;
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What a waste of everything. Glad I survived that stupidity. The hole &quot;college is about partying&quot; mentality is completely moronic in the US. It is for &quot;studying&quot; not partying. I wish I had spent my time drinking doing something else. Oh man....&lt;br /&gt;
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I suppose I can blame the culture in college, but I will accept responsibility for being a moron in college.&lt;br /&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Honestly, I am surprised stuff like this doesn&#8217;t happen WAY more often. There is so much binging going on in colleges. </p>
<p>If I was to be &#8220;responsible&#8221; and take people to the emergency room, I&#8217;d be taking probably two people per night. I&#8217;d probably would&#8217;ve ended up there myself dozens of times during my college career.</p>
<p>What a waste of everything. Glad I survived that stupidity. The hole &#8220;college is about partying&#8221; mentality is completely moronic in the US. It is for &#8220;studying&#8221; not partying. I wish I had spent my time drinking doing something else. Oh man&#8230;.</p>
<p>I suppose I can blame the culture in college, but I will accept responsibility for being a moron in college.</p>
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		<title>By: josie</title>
		<link>http://www.secretsofthecity.com/mnspeak/11929#comment-146325</link>
		<dc:creator>josie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Mar 2008 00:13:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Better a pissed off friend than a dead friend. &lt;/em&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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I called an ambulance on a wasted friend once in college.  By the time we got to the hospital, she was sobering up, so they just turned her around and sent her home, but at the time when her eyes were rolling back in her head and I couldn&#039;t keep her upright, it was the right choice.  &lt;br /&gt;
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And she was out $400 for her pointless ambulance ride and the college called her parents and they were pissed, but you know what?  She never got that shitfaced ever again.  She eventually thanked me for it, because it scared the bejesus out of her that she could get to the point where someone thought she might die.  If someone had done that for Amanda just one of the &quot;hundreds of times&quot; she had been that drunk, maybe she&#039;d still be alive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Better a pissed off friend than a dead friend. </em></p>
<p>I called an ambulance on a wasted friend once in college.  By the time we got to the hospital, she was sobering up, so they just turned her around and sent her home, but at the time when her eyes were rolling back in her head and I couldn&#8217;t keep her upright, it was the right choice.  </p>
<p>And she was out $400 for her pointless ambulance ride and the college called her parents and they were pissed, but you know what?  She never got that shitfaced ever again.  She eventually thanked me for it, because it scared the bejesus out of her that she could get to the point where someone thought she might die.  If someone had done that for Amanda just one of the &#8220;hundreds of times&#8221; she had been that drunk, maybe she&#8217;d still be alive.</p>
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		<title>By: mnblrmkr</title>
		<link>http://www.secretsofthecity.com/mnspeak/11929#comment-146324</link>
		<dc:creator>mnblrmkr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Feb 2008 23:52:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There seems to be a bit of a change. &lt;br /&gt;
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When I was in college, there were plenty of people that would pass out, but the drinking, while probably still qualifying as binge drinking, was at a slower, more steady pace, and got slower as they got closer to passing out. If a person finally passed out, their BAC wasn&#039;t going to rise much further.&lt;br /&gt;
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Now days, it seems much more common to be slamming as many drinks down as fast as you can (the so called &quot;power hour&quot;, etc.). So when a person does pass out, there is so much more alcohol that can still enter their system, they&#039;re at a much greater risk, since an unconscious person can give you few, if any clues they are in danger.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There seems to be a bit of a change. </p>
<p>When I was in college, there were plenty of people that would pass out, but the drinking, while probably still qualifying as binge drinking, was at a slower, more steady pace, and got slower as they got closer to passing out. If a person finally passed out, their BAC wasn&#8217;t going to rise much further.</p>
<p>Now days, it seems much more common to be slamming as many drinks down as fast as you can (the so called &#8220;power hour&#8221;, etc.). So when a person does pass out, there is so much more alcohol that can still enter their system, they&#8217;re at a much greater risk, since an unconscious person can give you few, if any clues they are in danger.</p>
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