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		<title>By: JACC</title>
		<link>http://www.secretsofthecity.com/mnspeak/11902#comment-145437</link>
		<dc:creator>JACC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2008 02:52:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Now if you look at the engaged users I&#039;d bet pink slips I&#039;d beat atleast 50% of that list.&lt;/em&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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No one calls me out? Not even on outdated vernacular like &quot;pink slip&quot;? &lt;br /&gt;
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That hasn&#039;t happened since diggity-odd six,bet&#039;s off. &lt;br /&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Now if you look at the engaged users I&#8217;d bet pink slips I&#8217;d beat atleast 50% of that list.</em></p>
<p>No one calls me out? Not even on outdated vernacular like &#8220;pink slip&#8221;? </p>
<p>That hasn&#8217;t happened since diggity-odd six,bet&#8217;s off. </p>
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		<title>By: JACC</title>
		<link>http://www.secretsofthecity.com/mnspeak/11902#comment-145321</link>
		<dc:creator>JACC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 18:33:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@taulpaul - That&#039;s an interesting point on engagement. I did a technorati search on my blog (which doesn&#039;t use technorati) and it ranked at 112 blog reactions.  &lt;br /&gt;
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I won&#039;t list at all on Compete.com, as it just lists blogspot, but on average I get a few hundred uniques a day.&lt;br /&gt;
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Now if you look at the engaged users I&#039;d bet pink slips I&#039;d beat atleast 50% of that list.&lt;br /&gt;
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I&#039;m sure the same can be said of many local sites not mentioned on that list.&lt;br /&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@taulpaul &#8211; That&#8217;s an interesting point on engagement. I did a technorati search on my blog (which doesn&#8217;t use technorati) and it ranked at 112 blog reactions.  </p>
<p>I won&#8217;t list at all on Compete.com, as it just lists blogspot, but on average I get a few hundred uniques a day.</p>
<p>Now if you look at the engaged users I&#8217;d bet pink slips I&#8217;d beat atleast 50% of that list.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure the same can be said of many local sites not mentioned on that list.</p>
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		<title>By: ericam</title>
		<link>http://www.secretsofthecity.com/mnspeak/11902#comment-145320</link>
		<dc:creator>ericam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 18:28:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;I think Bob Collins made a poor choice choosing Metroblogging to do the &quot;official&quot; live blogging. Seems they were more interested in snark and &quot;verbal spitballs&quot; than covering the actual event.&lt;/em&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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The point of the liveblog wasn&#039;t to transcribe. So since you can&#039;t listen to the livefeed or watch the video, I don&#039;t know what else to tell you.&lt;br /&gt;
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If you thought the liveblog was painful to read, I&#039;d say it&#039;s a pretty good reflection of how painful it was to sit through the forum.&lt;br /&gt;
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It&#039;s actually pretty hard to capture the conversation and stay engaged in the discussion. The liveblog captured our on-the-spot reaction. And now that we&#039;ve all slept on it, there&#039;s plenty of reflective discussion ongoing. So read through our comments, Bob&#039;s comments at MPR, and Chuck&#039;s comments.&lt;br /&gt;
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Had we not been asked to liveblog it, I probably would have liveblogged it anyway, and there would have been a lot less there, because I would have listened a little more and gone for broader concepts.&lt;br /&gt;
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My biggest beef is that the structure of the forum somewhat discouraged audience participation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>I think Bob Collins made a poor choice choosing Metroblogging to do the &#8220;official&#8221; live blogging. Seems they were more interested in snark and &#8220;verbal spitballs&#8221; than covering the actual event.</em></p>
<p>The point of the liveblog wasn&#8217;t to transcribe. So since you can&#8217;t listen to the livefeed or watch the video, I don&#8217;t know what else to tell you.</p>
<p>If you thought the liveblog was painful to read, I&#8217;d say it&#8217;s a pretty good reflection of how painful it was to sit through the forum.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s actually pretty hard to capture the conversation and stay engaged in the discussion. The liveblog captured our on-the-spot reaction. And now that we&#8217;ve all slept on it, there&#8217;s plenty of reflective discussion ongoing. So read through our comments, Bob&#8217;s comments at MPR, and Chuck&#8217;s comments.</p>
<p>Had we not been asked to liveblog it, I probably would have liveblogged it anyway, and there would have been a lot less there, because I would have listened a little more and gone for broader concepts.</p>
<p>My biggest beef is that the structure of the forum somewhat discouraged audience participation.</p>
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		<title>By: taulpaul</title>
		<link>http://www.secretsofthecity.com/mnspeak/11902#comment-145312</link>
		<dc:creator>taulpaul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 18:05:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Max for putting these two pieces together.&lt;br /&gt;
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Ed:  I like the stats, I&#039;m working on a user engagement formula, and technorati stats are part of the equation.  It&#039;s fairly clear that marketers, like me, prefer engaged content consumers, than passive content consumers.  Compete.com stats for traffic are great, but most of the top sites lack any engaged content consumer.  Mnspeak is a great example of a small be engaged audience.&lt;br /&gt;
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Chuck:  Are we still talking about blogger ethics?  Gawd!  Doesn&#039;t everyone know by now that DeRusha gets all his stories from us?  I kid.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Max for putting these two pieces together.</p>
<p>Ed:  I like the stats, I&#8217;m working on a user engagement formula, and technorati stats are part of the equation.  It&#8217;s fairly clear that marketers, like me, prefer engaged content consumers, than passive content consumers.  Compete.com stats for traffic are great, but most of the top sites lack any engaged content consumer.  Mnspeak is a great example of a small be engaged audience.</p>
<p>Chuck:  Are we still talking about blogger ethics?  Gawd!  Doesn&#8217;t everyone know by now that DeRusha gets all his stories from us?  I kid.</p>
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		<title>By: cristina</title>
		<link>http://www.secretsofthecity.com/mnspeak/11902#comment-145298</link>
		<dc:creator>cristina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 17:49:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oops. I changed that sentence half way through and left a &quot;you&#039;re.&quot;  Ouch!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oops. I changed that sentence half way through and left a &#8220;you&#8217;re.&#8221;  Ouch!</p>
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		<title>By: cristina</title>
		<link>http://www.secretsofthecity.com/mnspeak/11902#comment-145297</link>
		<dc:creator>cristina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 17:48:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gotcha, Ed. Actually, you&#039;re info was indeed interesting. Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gotcha, Ed. Actually, you&#8217;re info was indeed interesting. Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: msparber</title>
		<link>http://www.secretsofthecity.com/mnspeak/11902#comment-145296</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 17:47:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The language was a little confusing. The sidebar&#039;s description doesn&#039;t make it sound a though the sidebar was based on an informal survey of the participants in the story, but instead that it was a larger survey of local online media people. Perhaps I&#039;m just getting hung up on the word &quot;bevvy.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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In the meanwhile, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.rakemag.com/blogs/defenestrator&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;MnSpeak&#039;s own Rich debuts his political blog at Rake.&lt;/a&gt; Worth checking out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The language was a little confusing. The sidebar&#8217;s description doesn&#8217;t make it sound a though the sidebar was based on an informal survey of the participants in the story, but instead that it was a larger survey of local online media people. Perhaps I&#8217;m just getting hung up on the word &#8220;bevvy.&#8221;</p>
<p>In the meanwhile, <a href="http://www.rakemag.com/blogs/defenestrator" target="_blank">MnSpeak&#8217;s own Rich debuts his political blog at Rake.</a> Worth checking out.</p>
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		<title>By: cristina</title>
		<link>http://www.secretsofthecity.com/mnspeak/11902#comment-145293</link>
		<dc:creator>cristina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 17:39:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We asked about 7 people (mentioned in the article) to let us know where they get their local news online. I&#039;d hardly call that a ranking of any real kind. I just want everyone to be clear about the fact that this was not intended as an official ranking, but as a way to introduce some additional local news sources. That&#039;s all. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We asked about 7 people (mentioned in the article) to let us know where they get their local news online. I&#8217;d hardly call that a ranking of any real kind. I just want everyone to be clear about the fact that this was not intended as an official ranking, but as a way to introduce some additional local news sources. That&#8217;s all.</p>
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		<title>By: edkohler</title>
		<link>http://www.secretsofthecity.com/mnspeak/11902#comment-145292</link>
		<dc:creator>edkohler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 17:39:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>cristina, I figured it would be fun to throw some data at the informal survey to see what that looked like. &lt;br /&gt;
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I assumed they were rankings when I &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.rakemag.com/reporting/features/all-news-fits-and-then-some?page=0%2C1&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;read this&lt;/a&gt;, &quot;The sites they named are ordered below roughly from most- to least-mentionedor, if you will, from the usual suspects to some intriguing lesser-knowns.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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It sounds like they were ranked, roughly, based on how often they were mentioned.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>cristina, I figured it would be fun to throw some data at the informal survey to see what that looked like. </p>
<p>I assumed they were rankings when I <a href="http://www.rakemag.com/reporting/features/all-news-fits-and-then-some?page=0%2C1" target="_blank">read this</a>, &#8220;The sites they named are ordered below roughly from most- to least-mentionedor, if you will, from the usual suspects to some intriguing lesser-knowns.&#8221;</p>
<p>It sounds like they were ranked, roughly, based on how often they were mentioned.</p>
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		<title>By: JACC</title>
		<link>http://www.secretsofthecity.com/mnspeak/11902#comment-145290</link>
		<dc:creator>JACC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 17:37:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;I have had problems with my comments on MPR sites before. I presumed the problems were of a technical nature, now I&#039;m not so sure.&lt;/em&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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I wondered the same thing, until I saw comments be posted for 24+ hours and then disappear. &lt;br /&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>I have had problems with my comments on MPR sites before. I presumed the problems were of a technical nature, now I&#8217;m not so sure.</em></p>
<p>I wondered the same thing, until I saw comments be posted for 24+ hours and then disappear. </p>
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