Politics in Minnesota 2.15.2008

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Odd that we would look to California, with some of the worst air pollution problems in the nation, as a model for Minnesota.

I was thinking the same thing, bob.

I don’t see what could possibly be bad about tighter emissions standards.

re: street repairs

Can we call T-Paw the least responsible elected official in MN now?

re: street repairs

I’m officially pissed off now. They aren’t resurfacing Nicollet between Lake and 36th? It is the worst road in Minneapolis. It is all potholes, bumps and cracks. I would guess more than 200 buses drive down this stretch, each way, every day.

The State, the County and the City are all bastards.

Now DFL Rep. Melissa Hortman from Brooklyn Park has introduced the measure at the legislature. Hortman says the standards would not only help Minnesota reduce its carbon footprint, they would save drivers money.

“Even though automakers and the California Air Resources Board estimate there could be an increased cost in purchasing of a new car, the amount of money that a consumer will save over the life of the car will more than make up for that.”

Nowhere in the story does it say anything about how reduced emmissions will be saving money for drivers. This is either bad reporting by Hemphill, or uneduacted deciept from a nanny-state DFLer.

Erica: I’m saying we might do a better job than California.

The KARE Bears did a piece on this.

Someone should tell Rep. Hortman that virtually every car in Minnesota is running on ethanol (a ten percent blend). Unless she meant E85..

I presume improved gas mileage is one such savings. Although reducing emissions is not necessarily equal to improving gas mileage.

Text of the bill here: HR 863/SF 481

They claim it will save you $1,700 per year in gas, even more the higher the price of gas gets. That’s according to the Union of Concerned Scientists, so it must be true.

“We’re talking about an 11-member panel in California, that’s going to be regulating the state of Minnesota….”

democrats. what morons.

Does this mean we get to have our gasoline refined to the same expensive standards as california too? Oh goody.

Mpls Simpleton Feb 15 2008
1:51 pm

They claim it will save you $1,700 per year in gas,

This is nearly impossible. For this to happen you would have to drive about 18,000 miles a year and have to increase your MPG by about 30. Not increase to 30 mpg, add 30 mph to what you are getting now.

no kidding Feb 15 2008
2:07 pm

“This is nearly impossible”

Greenies don’t care if something is possible, they just want to make themselves feel better and more important. Nothing is impossible if you have faith, and being green is their new religion.

Yes, that’s exactly it. Because everybody can be reduced to the most inane motivations possible. Joggers just want to be faster than pedestrians. Because speed in their new religion. And mushroom growers just feel like they are superior to everybody else, because they have more fungii around them. Mycophilia is their new religion.

When they introdcued their gas tax increase, they said the average Minnesotan drives 11,000 miles at 20 mpg. If that conflicts with Union of Concerned Scientist numbers, the the greenmongers and the taxmongers need to get together and work that out going forward. We can’t have the average Minnesotan producing two different sets of data for the same subject.

aren’t Greenies those awful drinks @ Tony Jarro’s? I had no idea that beverages had feelings.

It’s the same tree huggers who forced Xcel energy into closing their coal-fired plant in St. Paul and converting it to natural gas …. at over twice the cost to the consumer. But what the heck. If gramma loses her home because she can’t afford the high energy bills that’s just too bad. The greens forced the evil corporation to back down and that’s the most important thing.

I have feelings after I drink a greenie. I feel like, “Why did I just drink that?”

Mpls Simpleton Feb 15 2008
2:33 pm

If gramma loses her home because she can’t afford the high energy bills that’s just too bad.

No Maz, that’s Capitalism!

smack!

Tony Jaros Feb 15 2008
3:06 pm

No more negative talk about Greenies!

Late on Friday, a flood of responses to the recent “biofuels cause global warming” story hit my email. The US Dept. of Energy and a number of top labs and universities has given the U of M study a right good smackdown. I suspect others are working on their reports.

So it wasn’t just me who had doubts.

I love it when publicly-funded scientists fight. So hot.

Planned renovation of those streets has slowed to a snail’s pace, especially since the state cut aid to the city by more than $30 million in 2003. The city’s budget for major street repairs has fallen from $14.4 million two years ago to $4.5 million this year. Other street projects are paid through property assessments.

Thanks TPaw, you cheapskate city-hating piece of shit!