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		<title>By: Rob R.</title>
		<link>http://www.secretsofthecity.com/mnspeak/11498#comment-131283</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob R.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2007 15:19:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>More of the same comments that are not true.&lt;br /&gt;
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The roads are not payed for solely by gas and car taxes. Property taxes pay for more than half of MN road and bridge costs.&lt;br /&gt;
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http://www.house.leg.state.mn.us/members/pressreleasels85.asp?district=29B&amp;pressid=2998&amp;party=1&lt;br /&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>More of the same comments that are not true.</p>
<p>The roads are not payed for solely by gas and car taxes. Property taxes pay for more than half of MN road and bridge costs.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.house.leg.state.mn.us/members/pressreleasels85.asp?district=29B&#038;pressid=2998&#038;party=1" rel="nofollow">http://www.house.leg.state.mn.us/members/pressreleasels85.asp?district=29B&#038;pressid=2998&#038;party=1</a></p>
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		<title>By: justpbob</title>
		<link>http://www.secretsofthecity.com/mnspeak/11498#comment-131279</link>
		<dc:creator>justpbob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2007 13:38:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;It&#039;s actually 1 in 8 licensed Minnesota drivers -- or about 500,000.&lt;/em&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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That&#039;s still pretty shocking -- a half million drunk drivers in Minnesota. Wisconsin&#039;s numbers are even higher, I believe.&lt;br /&gt;
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Yikes! Hurry, Northstar and Central Light Rail!  I&#039;ll be taking a long drive to Renville on Friday for the opening of the latest E85 station (#335!). Only the truck will be filling up with alcohol....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>It&#8217;s actually 1 in 8 licensed Minnesota drivers &#8212; or about 500,000.</em></p>
<p>That&#8217;s still pretty shocking &#8212; a half million drunk drivers in Minnesota. Wisconsin&#8217;s numbers are even higher, I believe.</p>
<p>Yikes! Hurry, Northstar and Central Light Rail!  I&#8217;ll be taking a long drive to Renville on Friday for the opening of the latest E85 station (#335!). Only the truck will be filling up with alcohol&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Nancy Yang</title>
		<link>http://www.secretsofthecity.com/mnspeak/11498#comment-131256</link>
		<dc:creator>Nancy Yang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2007 01:05:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;I heard a statistic the other day that in Minnesota 1 in 3 people has a DUI. Amazing.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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It&#039;s actually 1 in 8 licensed Minnesota drivers -- or about 500,000. That info is from a press conference I attended last week at the MN Dept. of Public Safety (they were announcing the 15 deadliest counties for drunk driving). </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>I heard a statistic the other day that in Minnesota 1 in 3 people has a DUI. Amazing.</i></p>
<p>It&#8217;s actually 1 in 8 licensed Minnesota drivers &#8212; or about 500,000. That info is from a press conference I attended last week at the MN Dept. of Public Safety (they were announcing the 15 deadliest counties for drunk driving).</p>
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		<title>By: cubbie</title>
		<link>http://www.secretsofthecity.com/mnspeak/11498#comment-131252</link>
		<dc:creator>cubbie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2007 00:43:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One way MN could cut down on drinking and driving is to let the city run more cabs.  I&#039;m sorry, but I can only stand outside in 10 degree weather at 2am for so long before I say &quot;f_ck it, i&#039;m driving.&quot;  &lt;br /&gt;
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(This pretty much never happens anymore as I travel for work and rarely go out anymore, but was a common occurence back in the day.)&lt;br /&gt;
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and yeah, i live just a few blocks from broadway/quincy.  although i stopped going to uncle franky&#039;s once that cute broad quit working there.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One way MN could cut down on drinking and driving is to let the city run more cabs.  I&#8217;m sorry, but I can only stand outside in 10 degree weather at 2am for so long before I say &#8220;f_ck it, i&#8217;m driving.&#8221;  </p>
<p>(This pretty much never happens anymore as I travel for work and rarely go out anymore, but was a common occurence back in the day.)</p>
<p>and yeah, i live just a few blocks from broadway/quincy.  although i stopped going to uncle franky&#8217;s once that cute broad quit working there.</p>
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		<title>By: yepnope</title>
		<link>http://www.secretsofthecity.com/mnspeak/11498#comment-131240</link>
		<dc:creator>yepnope</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2007 22:39:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;I know this is anecdotal, but if DUI laws are harsh already, why are there so many repeat offenders?&lt;/em&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Because they&#039;re addicts, and consequently don&#039;t always make the most logical choices. Same reason thieves and prostitutes re-offend at such high rates.&lt;br /&gt;
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A defense attorney told me, &quot;Anyone can get one DUI. If that experience doesn&#039;t alter your behavior, then you&#039;re an alcoholic.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>I know this is anecdotal, but if DUI laws are harsh already, why are there so many repeat offenders?</em></p>
<p>Because they&#8217;re addicts, and consequently don&#8217;t always make the most logical choices. Same reason thieves and prostitutes re-offend at such high rates.</p>
<p>A defense attorney told me, &#8220;Anyone can get one DUI. If that experience doesn&#8217;t alter your behavior, then you&#8217;re an alcoholic.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: vlado4</title>
		<link>http://www.secretsofthecity.com/mnspeak/11498#comment-131234</link>
		<dc:creator>vlado4</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2007 22:24:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;I wouldn&#039;t say DUI law is lenient. First timers might get off ok (16 hours comm service, $1600 fine, alcoholc class), but after that, it is brutal. 30 days jail for your second, 90 days jail for your third, fourth time is a felony. For all of these there is serious license revocations periods.&lt;br /&gt;
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Of course, MADD will only be happy when we the death penalty for DUI. Last year, inattentive/inexperienced drivers killed approximately 230 drivers in the state, Drunks killed about 180. All tragedies, but these numbers are a fraction of what there was 20 years ago.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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I know friends who have had their 2nd and third DUI and none of them spent 30 days in jail. With an expensive lawyer you can decrease the punishment quite a bit. Within 1-2 months they were driving again.&lt;br /&gt;
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I know this is anecdotal, but if DUI laws are harsh already, why are there so many repeat offenders?&lt;br /&gt;
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Careless driving or DUI is a good way to show a person is not responsible enough to use a car. Aside from other punishment, why not just revoke their license for a LONG time I am talking years here not weeks. &lt;br /&gt;
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Of course, drivers will sympathize and say that people NEED a car to continue their lives. Lame excuse. &lt;br /&gt;
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The way I see it is simple:&lt;br /&gt;
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Demonstrate irresponsibility behind the wheel = have your driving rights removed for several years.&lt;br /&gt;
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I am not even going mention the comically easy driving tests which allow you to get a license without knowing english although there are so many signs with words on them....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>I wouldn&#8217;t say DUI law is lenient. First timers might get off ok (16 hours comm service, $1600 fine, alcoholc class), but after that, it is brutal. 30 days jail for your second, 90 days jail for your third, fourth time is a felony. For all of these there is serious license revocations periods.</p>
<p>Of course, MADD will only be happy when we the death penalty for DUI. Last year, inattentive/inexperienced drivers killed approximately 230 drivers in the state, Drunks killed about 180. All tragedies, but these numbers are a fraction of what there was 20 years ago.</i></p>
<p>I know friends who have had their 2nd and third DUI and none of them spent 30 days in jail. With an expensive lawyer you can decrease the punishment quite a bit. Within 1-2 months they were driving again.</p>
<p>I know this is anecdotal, but if DUI laws are harsh already, why are there so many repeat offenders?</p>
<p>Careless driving or DUI is a good way to show a person is not responsible enough to use a car. Aside from other punishment, why not just revoke their license for a LONG time I am talking years here not weeks. </p>
<p>Of course, drivers will sympathize and say that people NEED a car to continue their lives. Lame excuse. </p>
<p>The way I see it is simple:</p>
<p>Demonstrate irresponsibility behind the wheel = have your driving rights removed for several years.</p>
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I am not even going mention the comically easy driving tests which allow you to get a license without knowing english although there are so many signs with words on them&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Tuck </title>
		<link>http://www.secretsofthecity.com/mnspeak/11498#comment-131203</link>
		<dc:creator>Tuck </dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2007 20:50:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wouldn&#039;t say DUI law is lenient.   First timers might get off ok (16 hours comm service, $1600 fine, alcoholc class), but after that, it is brutal.  30 days jail for your second, 90 days jail for your third, fourth time is a felony.  For all of these there is serious license revocations periods.  &lt;br /&gt;
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Of course, MADD will only be happy when we the death penalty for DUI.  Last year, inattentive/inexperienced drivers killed approximately 230 drivers in the state, Drunks killed about 180.  All tragedies, but these numbers are a fraction of what there was 20 years ago. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wouldn&#8217;t say DUI law is lenient.   First timers might get off ok (16 hours comm service, $1600 fine, alcoholc class), but after that, it is brutal.  30 days jail for your second, 90 days jail for your third, fourth time is a felony.  For all of these there is serious license revocations periods.  </p>
<p>Of course, MADD will only be happy when we the death penalty for DUI.  Last year, inattentive/inexperienced drivers killed approximately 230 drivers in the state, Drunks killed about 180.  All tragedies, but these numbers are a fraction of what there was 20 years ago.</p>
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		<title>By: spaceman</title>
		<link>http://www.secretsofthecity.com/mnspeak/11498#comment-131197</link>
		<dc:creator>spaceman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2007 20:38:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;I heard a statistic the other day that in Minnesota 1 in 3 people has a DUI. Amazing.&lt;/em&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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I heard the same thing recently -- but this just cannot be correct.  Think about it a minute . . . there&#039;s no way that is an accurate statistic. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>I heard a statistic the other day that in Minnesota 1 in 3 people has a DUI. Amazing.</em></p>
<p>I heard the same thing recently &#8212; but this just cannot be correct.  Think about it a minute . . . there&#8217;s no way that is an accurate statistic.</p>
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		<title>By: jimn</title>
		<link>http://www.secretsofthecity.com/mnspeak/11498#comment-131175</link>
		<dc:creator>jimn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2007 20:12:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;That must be MNspeak corner--I live one block from there, too. Any MNspeakers in my building on Summer and Jackson?&lt;/em&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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No, pretty close though @ Summer and Jefferson.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>That must be MNspeak corner&#8211;I live one block from there, too. Any MNspeakers in my building on Summer and Jackson?</em></p>
<p>No, pretty close though @ Summer and Jefferson.</p>
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		<title>By: vlado4</title>
		<link>http://www.secretsofthecity.com/mnspeak/11498#comment-131168</link>
		<dc:creator>vlado4</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2007 19:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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I didn&#039;t say I disagreed with you, I was obviously mis-informed. I am not one of those drivers who carelessly disregards the safety of bicyclists. In fact, I have a strange admiration for anyone is is hearty enough to ride all winter.&lt;br /&gt;
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I am glad to hear not all drivers are out to get us. &lt;br /&gt;
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Biking in the winter is not as hard-core as it seems. My motto is if I can do it, most people can too.&lt;br /&gt;
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Snow is rather challenging, but the cold not too bad. Your body warms up wuite a bit and you just need a balaclava to cover your face and good gloves and ski socks. Everything else is the same.&lt;br /&gt;
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This is what MN is about, the strong can take the cold, the lazy pussies go to warmer climates.</description>
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<p>I didn&#8217;t say I disagreed with you, I was obviously mis-informed. I am not one of those drivers who carelessly disregards the safety of bicyclists. In fact, I have a strange admiration for anyone is is hearty enough to ride all winter.<br />
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<p>I am glad to hear not all drivers are out to get us. </p>
<p>Biking in the winter is not as hard-core as it seems. My motto is if I can do it, most people can too.</p>
<p>Snow is rather challenging, but the cold not too bad. Your body warms up wuite a bit and you just need a balaclava to cover your face and good gloves and ski socks. Everything else is the same.</p>
<p>This is what MN is about, the strong can take the cold, the lazy pussies go to warmer climates.</p>
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