Comments on: Local Blogging 11.03.07 http://www.secretsofthecity.com/mnspeak/11439 Minneapolis + St. Paul Sun, 22 Nov 2009 07:11:27 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Mpls Simpleton http://www.secretsofthecity.com/mnspeak/11439#comment-129002 Mpls Simpleton Tue, 04 Dec 2007 14:37:26 +0000 #comment-129002 Not to beat an ilrelevant horse but most of your "framing" and "pulling nuggets" was posted after the article ran in the Sunday paper. Are they supposed to retroactively pimp you for something you posted after the story ran. Not to beat an ilrelevant horse but most of your “framing” and “pulling nuggets” was posted after the article ran in the Sunday paper. Are they supposed to retroactively pimp you for something you posted after the story ran.

]]> By: MNMON http://www.secretsofthecity.com/mnspeak/11439#comment-128952 MNMON Tue, 04 Dec 2007 01:06:04 +0000 #comment-128952 ASK A VET: Ashwin Madia, the VoteVets.org-endorsed candidate running for the DFL endorsement in the 3rd Congressional District is <a href="http://minnesotamonitor.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=2838">NOW AVAILABLE for questions at <strong>Minnesota Monitor's liveblog</strong>, from 7 til 8 pm Monday night. </a> ASK A VET: Ashwin Madia, the VoteVets.org-endorsed candidate running for the DFL endorsement in the 3rd Congressional District is NOW AVAILABLE for questions at Minnesota Monitor’s liveblog, from 7 til 8 pm Monday night.

]]> By: kevin http://www.secretsofthecity.com/mnspeak/11439#comment-128942 kevin Mon, 03 Dec 2007 23:03:20 +0000 #comment-128942 No argument there. No argument there.

]]> By: edkohler http://www.secretsofthecity.com/mnspeak/11439#comment-128940 edkohler Mon, 03 Dec 2007 23:01:25 +0000 #comment-128940 Some beyond your "nothing particularly unique" comment. Compare that to the work by the StarTribune. They rewrote a story that had been told before with a couple fresh quotes and no links to any citations or subjects mentioned in the article. That's "nothing particularly unique." Some beyond your “nothing particularly unique” comment.

Compare that to the work by the StarTribune. They rewrote a story that had been told before with a couple fresh quotes and no links to any citations or subjects mentioned in the article. That’s “nothing particularly unique.”

]]> By: kevin http://www.secretsofthecity.com/mnspeak/11439#comment-128937 kevin Mon, 03 Dec 2007 22:54:10 +0000 #comment-128937 Like what? <br /> <br /> Like what?

]]> By: edkohler http://www.secretsofthecity.com/mnspeak/11439#comment-128932 edkohler Mon, 03 Dec 2007 22:46:26 +0000 #comment-128932 In the blogging world, that would be "via" worthy. I'd like to think that I framed the story in a way that made is easily understandable, helped show the Facebook side of the story to non-Facebook users, and pulled out nuggets from the Rounder application that helped explain things. I also linked to all subjects so people could go deeper (as you appear to have done) than a prinet (or StarTribune.com) version of the story did. Is that worth something? In the blogging world, that would be “via” worthy.

I’d like to think that I framed the story in a way that made is easily understandable, helped show the Facebook side of the story to non-Facebook users, and pulled out nuggets from the Rounder application that helped explain things. I also linked to all subjects so people could go deeper (as you appear to have done) than a prinet (or StarTribune.com) version of the story did. Is that worth something?

]]> By: kevin http://www.secretsofthecity.com/mnspeak/11439#comment-128929 kevin Mon, 03 Dec 2007 22:36:02 +0000 #comment-128929 I'm just saying you don't appear to have done anything particularly unique. Here's the test I used.<br /> <br /> Did the blogger report information not already readily available for the finding? No. You linked to a guy and posted the application captured from a website that anyone interested in the story would reasonably be assumed to know about. The only thing new you seemed to add was your commentary. <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> I’m just saying you don’t appear to have done anything particularly unique. Here’s the test I used.

Did the blogger report information not already readily available for the finding? No. You linked to a guy and posted the application captured from a website that anyone interested in the story would reasonably be assumed to know about. The only thing new you seemed to add was your commentary.

]]> By: edkohler http://www.secretsofthecity.com/mnspeak/11439#comment-128901 edkohler Mon, 03 Dec 2007 22:05:31 +0000 #comment-128901 Kevin, when I read your comment I think, "Maybe holding newspapers to the same standards bloggers hold each other is too high a bar?" Kevin, when I read your comment I think, “Maybe holding newspapers to the same standards bloggers hold each other is too high a bar?”

]]> By: kevin http://www.secretsofthecity.com/mnspeak/11439#comment-128886 kevin Mon, 03 Dec 2007 21:51:49 +0000 #comment-128886 Very few "bloggers" make "posts" that consist of nothing but their own authentic work. Deets appears to have done at least the bare minimum, but what he found wasn't anything that anyone else couldn't have found. He didn't put two and two together to find four.<br /> <br /> Compare this case to the ongoing Mark Ritchie saga. That first came to light via original reporting by MDE and early press stories cited MDE as such.<br /> <br /> Verdict on the matter of Deets v Ridder:<br /> Claimant has not met basic standard of journalistic authenticity in regards to posted information; Claim of deserved citation denied. Case dismissed.<br /> <br /> (gavel)<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> Very few “bloggers” make “posts” that consist of nothing but their own authentic work. Deets appears to have done at least the bare minimum, but what he found wasn’t anything that anyone else couldn’t have found. He didn’t put two and two together to find four.

Compare this case to the ongoing Mark Ritchie saga. That first came to light via original reporting by MDE and early press stories cited MDE as such.

Verdict on the matter of Deets v Ridder:
Claimant has not met basic standard of journalistic authenticity in regards to posted information; Claim of deserved citation denied. Case dismissed.

(gavel)

]]> By: ryanol http://www.secretsofthecity.com/mnspeak/11439#comment-128882 ryanol Mon, 03 Dec 2007 21:37:11 +0000 #comment-128882 anyone else see that map of North Minnepolis foreclosures and think: how much longer till some corporation buys up an entire neighborhood.<br /> <br /> anyone else see that map of North Minnepolis foreclosures and think: how much longer till some corporation buys up an entire neighborhood.

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