Comments on: MinnPost http://www.secretsofthecity.com/mnspeak/11319 Minneapolis + St. Paul Sun, 22 Nov 2009 06:28:20 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: awjeeze http://www.secretsofthecity.com/mnspeak/11319#comment-124883 awjeeze Sat, 10 Nov 2007 18:39:16 +0000 #comment-124883 What do you expect? <br /> <br /> Minnpost staff is pretty much all those guys who weren't interested enough in the Web to pay attention back when it was new and they had a chance to help define what it would become. <br /> <br /> So more than a decade has passed and their printing press has been taken away. So they're settling.<br /> <br /> What do you expect?

Minnpost staff is pretty much all those guys who weren’t interested enough in the Web to pay attention back when it was new and they had a chance to help define what it would become.

So more than a decade has passed and their printing press has been taken away. So they’re settling.

]]> By: Jay http://www.secretsofthecity.com/mnspeak/11319#comment-124872 Jay Sat, 10 Nov 2007 07:22:53 +0000 #comment-124872 Solace said: <em>yeah, no offense to Clockwork, i know people who work there, but between this design/site and The Daily Mole, i'm wanting to quit my job and just do freelancing gigs...</em><br /> <br /> Um, I'd be cautious with the criticism. The Reveille site design stanks pretty heavily itself. Solace said: yeah, no offense to Clockwork, i know people who work there, but between this design/site and The Daily Mole, i’m wanting to quit my job and just do freelancing gigs…

Um, I’d be cautious with the criticism. The Reveille site design stanks pretty heavily itself.

]]> By: solace http://www.secretsofthecity.com/mnspeak/11319#comment-124823 solace Fri, 09 Nov 2007 23:06:18 +0000 #comment-124823 a hundred should suffice :) a hundred should suffice :)

]]> By: Cat http://www.secretsofthecity.com/mnspeak/11319#comment-124819 Cat Fri, 09 Nov 2007 22:57:21 +0000 #comment-124819 Yeah, Solace: I was thinking about the number of journalists at both MinnPost and The Daily Mole and, well, I totally effed up. <br /> <br /> Now if I say Reveille a thousand times, will I be forgiven for my oversight? <br /> <br /> Yeah, Solace: I was thinking about the number of journalists at both MinnPost and The Daily Mole and, well, I totally effed up.

Now if I say Reveille a thousand times, will I be forgiven for my oversight?

]]> By: kevin http://www.secretsofthecity.com/mnspeak/11319#comment-124766 kevin Fri, 09 Nov 2007 21:29:42 +0000 #comment-124766 I mean that an organization will eventually find itself over populated with people who do what's comfortable or just enough to get by, which hinders the progress made by people who strive to do better, of whom the numbers decrease or remain the same. At that point, improvement slows to a crawl or even a dead stop. Once that happens, it dies on the vine as other more motivated competitors pass it by. My drive-by opinion is that such a fate befalls the quality of journalism in the newspaper industry right now. Whether or not the staff cuts made at our dalies is the answer, well that remains to be seen. I'm guessing it is not.<br /> <br /> That being said, <a href="http://www.startribune.com/10204/story/1538793.html" target="_blank">I find this story to be good.</a> <a href="http://www.startribune.com/462/story/1539473.html" target="_blank">And this one to be pathetic.</a><br /> <br /> As for CP, there's nothing in it anymore. No passion. It seems like only a few pages turned and I'm in the entertainment listings. I mean that an organization will eventually find itself over populated with people who do what’s comfortable or just enough to get by, which hinders the progress made by people who strive to do better, of whom the numbers decrease or remain the same. At that point, improvement slows to a crawl or even a dead stop. Once that happens, it dies on the vine as other more motivated competitors pass it by. My drive-by opinion is that such a fate befalls the quality of journalism in the newspaper industry right now. Whether or not the staff cuts made at our dalies is the answer, well that remains to be seen. I’m guessing it is not.

That being said, I find this story to be good. And this one to be pathetic.

As for CP, there’s nothing in it anymore. No passion. It seems like only a few pages turned and I’m in the entertainment listings.

]]> By: Cat http://www.secretsofthecity.com/mnspeak/11319#comment-124761 Cat Fri, 09 Nov 2007 21:18:50 +0000 #comment-124761 Stagnation may mean old to some, but with regard to "corporate news" it can mean that there's so much other noise going on that reporting the news becomes secondary and thus, complacency sets in. As with Strib and PPress, it seemed to become more about bottom line and what would or wouldn't piss off the wrong people. It used to be that there was a really hard line between content and advertising and the line seems to be getting blurred more and more. It's environments like this that create complacency as some just don't want to fight the fight. <br /> <br /> And City Pages, well you can't really use them as an example because they are not at all thinking about content and audience. They are thinking about M-O-N-E-Y. Handling staff changes poorly, templating both writing and the sites and thinking that all markets think and act the same along with trying to find employees who will take the crap for crappy wages is what they're about these days. <br /> <br /> For me, MinnPost fills the gap. And it's exciting to live in a city that doesn't get tired of trying to find alternative ways to bring us information. Stagnation may mean old to some, but with regard to “corporate news” it can mean that there’s so much other noise going on that reporting the news becomes secondary and thus, complacency sets in. As with Strib and PPress, it seemed to become more about bottom line and what would or wouldn’t piss off the wrong people. It used to be that there was a really hard line between content and advertising and the line seems to be getting blurred more and more. It’s environments like this that create complacency as some just don’t want to fight the fight.

And City Pages, well you can’t really use them as an example because they are not at all thinking about content and audience. They are thinking about M-O-N-E-Y. Handling staff changes poorly, templating both writing and the sites and thinking that all markets think and act the same along with trying to find employees who will take the crap for crappy wages is what they’re about these days.

For me, MinnPost fills the gap. And it’s exciting to live in a city that doesn’t get tired of trying to find alternative ways to bring us information.

]]> By: MollyP http://www.secretsofthecity.com/mnspeak/11319#comment-124755 MollyP Fri, 09 Nov 2007 21:14:23 +0000 #comment-124755 I am wondering what counts for stagnation and atrophy. The flip side, it seems, is the current City Pages, where some "brand-builder" is looking for younger, "hipper" writers and churns out a paper that results in readers fleeing. (As proven by the comments here.) <br /> <br /> Stagnation seems like a euphemism for "old." Is it? I am wondering what counts for stagnation and atrophy. The flip side, it seems, is the current City Pages, where some “brand-builder” is looking for younger, “hipper” writers and churns out a paper that results in readers fleeing. (As proven by the comments here.)

Stagnation seems like a euphemism for “old.” Is it?

]]> By: solace http://www.secretsofthecity.com/mnspeak/11319#comment-124809 solace Fri, 09 Nov 2007 20:48:52 +0000 #comment-124809 Re: <em>Minnpost and The DailyMole are the first in this city to try to make the transition from traditional media to the new</em><br /> <br /> <a href="http://www.reveillemag.com" target="_blank"><strong>Reveille Magazine</strong></a><br /> <br /> <br /> granted we write just about music, but still.. ;) Re: Minnpost and The DailyMole are the first in this city to try to make the transition from traditional media to the new

Reveille Magazine

granted we write just about music, but still.. ;)

]]> By: msparber http://www.secretsofthecity.com/mnspeak/11319#comment-124691 msparber Fri, 09 Nov 2007 19:23:14 +0000 #comment-124691 This is an excellent discussion. This is an excellent discussion.

]]> By: s4xton http://www.secretsofthecity.com/mnspeak/11319#comment-124686 s4xton Fri, 09 Nov 2007 19:12:07 +0000 #comment-124686 <i>This is a good lesson to stop thinking of your blog/site as the only destination where people will consume your content. Go to where your target audience is currently living online, and interact with them there. That's how you build readership.</i><br /> <br /> <b>Exactly.</b> This is a good lesson to stop thinking of your blog/site as the only destination where people will consume your content. Go to where your target audience is currently living online, and interact with them there. That’s how you build readership.

Exactly.

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