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		<title>By: stevemarsh</title>
		<link>http://www.secretsofthecity.com/mnspeak/10939#comment-109854</link>
		<dc:creator>stevemarsh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Sep 2007 18:20:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stewart/Colbert=Weird Al. Maybe Tenacious D. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stewart/Colbert=Weird Al. Maybe Tenacious D.</p>
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		<title>By: kevin is ready for bed</title>
		<link>http://www.secretsofthecity.com/mnspeak/10939#comment-109683</link>
		<dc:creator>kevin is ready for bed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Sep 2007 12:09:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If bikes are not as fast as cars, why are they given the same rights over the road (without having to pay for it, mind you)?&lt;br /&gt;
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And if bike paths don&#039;t take you places you need to go, doesn&#039;t that make biking a poor method of transportation?&lt;br /&gt;
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Or are we just anti-car.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If bikes are not as fast as cars, why are they given the same rights over the road (without having to pay for it, mind you)?</p>
<p>And if bike paths don&#8217;t take you places you need to go, doesn&#8217;t that make biking a poor method of transportation?</p>
<p>Or are we just anti-car.</p>
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		<title>By: she-she</title>
		<link>http://www.secretsofthecity.com/mnspeak/10939#comment-109682</link>
		<dc:creator>she-she</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Sep 2007 07:22:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Bikes belong on bike-paths. If they are in the street, they need to both   keep up with traffic&quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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Newsflash:  Bikes are not as fast as cars.  And bike paths go around lakes.  They don&#039;t take you to places you need to go (usually). &lt;br /&gt;
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Guess what?  Biking is the way some people transport themselves.  Get used to it, and share the road.&lt;br /&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Bikes belong on bike-paths. If they are in the street, they need to both   keep up with traffic&#8221;</p>
<p>Newsflash:  Bikes are not as fast as cars.  And bike paths go around lakes.  They don&#8217;t take you to places you need to go (usually). </p>
<p>Guess what?  Biking is the way some people transport themselves.  Get used to it, and share the road.</p>
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		<title>By: chuck</title>
		<link>http://www.secretsofthecity.com/mnspeak/10939#comment-109680</link>
		<dc:creator>chuck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Sep 2007 07:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, the blogosphere is totally ranty. Not to be confused with Ranty, who I understand is some sort of Nordeast real estate vixen.&lt;br /&gt;
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Best practices are emerging for citizen journalism (that may be the most boring thing I&#039;ve ever written). I&#039;m going to a CJ conference next month with a bunch of people way smarter than me to figure out what those best practices are. Then we can hopefully apply that to &lt;a href=&quot;http://theuptake.org&quot;&gt;The Uptake&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;
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The Ramones of journalism -- isn&#039;t that Stewart/Colbert?&lt;br /&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, the blogosphere is totally ranty. Not to be confused with Ranty, who I understand is some sort of Nordeast real estate vixen.</p>
<p>Best practices are emerging for citizen journalism (that may be the most boring thing I&#8217;ve ever written). I&#8217;m going to a CJ conference next month with a bunch of people way smarter than me to figure out what those best practices are. Then we can hopefully apply that to <a href="http://theuptake.org">The Uptake</a>.</p>
<p>The Ramones of journalism &#8212; isn&#8217;t that Stewart/Colbert?</p>
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		<title>By: Carl's Pole-Lad</title>
		<link>http://www.secretsofthecity.com/mnspeak/10939#comment-109675</link>
		<dc:creator>Carl's Pole-Lad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Sep 2007 05:34:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Who will be our Ramones? &lt;/em&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Joe Mauer?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Who will be our Ramones? </em></p>
<p>Joe Mauer?</p>
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		<title>By: stevemarsh</title>
		<link>http://www.secretsofthecity.com/mnspeak/10939#comment-109674</link>
		<dc:creator>stevemarsh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Sep 2007 05:15:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Professional journalism&quot; is the language&#039;s deepest font of generic sensationalism and overheated prose. It&#039;s been that way for at least 100 years. Television &quot;writing&quot; has exacerbated it. Blogs regurgitate it. And the more recent p.c., faux-objectivist, gender-neutral, agreed-upon-standard is a fashion trend that&#039;s improbably maintained journalism&#039;s sensationalized tone while rendering it less interesting. Who will be our Ramones?   </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Professional journalism&#8221; is the language&#8217;s deepest font of generic sensationalism and overheated prose. It&#8217;s been that way for at least 100 years. Television &#8220;writing&#8221; has exacerbated it. Blogs regurgitate it. And the more recent p.c., faux-objectivist, gender-neutral, agreed-upon-standard is a fashion trend that&#8217;s improbably maintained journalism&#8217;s sensationalized tone while rendering it less interesting. Who will be our Ramones?</p>
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		<title>By: ordinary citizen</title>
		<link>http://www.secretsofthecity.com/mnspeak/10939#comment-109672</link>
		<dc:creator>ordinary citizen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Sep 2007 04:35:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;. . . OC: Replace &quot;bloggers&quot; with &quot;ordinary citizens.&quot; :-)&lt;/em&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Chuck, I&#039;m afraid I&#039;m going to respectfully disagree about that.&lt;br /&gt;
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I am not a blogger, but this year I have been exploring the local blogosphere quite a bit.&lt;br /&gt;
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My strong sense is that most bloggers are more easily triggered into an excited state than is true of the general population. . . and, again compared to the general population, they&#039;re &lt;em&gt;way &lt;/em&gt;more inclined to be hyper-expressive types who&#039;ve got very strong urges to immediately say whatever&#039;s on their mind, whether or not they&#039;ve thought it through very well.&lt;br /&gt;
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Bloggers typically want their sites to attract lots of traffic. I have yet to come across a site that has high traffic &lt;em&gt;and &lt;/em&gt;comments from visitiors along this line: &quot;Keep up the great work! I frequent your blog because you take a slow, measured, approach, posting new material only when you&#039;re confident it&#039;s good enough, and not writing anything when you probably don&#039;t know enough about what you would be commenting on.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;em&gt;. . . . there is a more professional level of citizen journalism emerging between the ranty blogger and the trained journalist. &lt;/em&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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I believe you, and I&#039;m in favor of it. &lt;br /&gt;
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A comparable well-established example of that sort of thing is citizens trained and certified to be credible severe-weather spotters/reporters.&lt;br /&gt;
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In that example, you get the benefit of lots more eyes and ears, from the ranks of the general public, but you also assure pretty good quality-control. Something along those lines ought to be looked into with citizen-journalism. Any hobby or volunteering activity that&#039;s lacking agreed-upon standards about quality, best-practices, ethical conduct, etc., won&#039;t get taken very seriously.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>. . . OC: Replace &#8220;bloggers&#8221; with &#8220;ordinary citizens.&#8221; <img src='http://www.secretsofthecity.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </em></p>
<p>Chuck, I&#8217;m afraid I&#8217;m going to respectfully disagree about that.</p>
<p>I am not a blogger, but this year I have been exploring the local blogosphere quite a bit.</p>
<p>My strong sense is that most bloggers are more easily triggered into an excited state than is true of the general population. . . and, again compared to the general population, they&#8217;re <em>way </em>more inclined to be hyper-expressive types who&#8217;ve got very strong urges to immediately say whatever&#8217;s on their mind, whether or not they&#8217;ve thought it through very well.</p>
<p>Bloggers typically want their sites to attract lots of traffic. I have yet to come across a site that has high traffic <em>and </em>comments from visitiors along this line: &#8220;Keep up the great work! I frequent your blog because you take a slow, measured, approach, posting new material only when you&#8217;re confident it&#8217;s good enough, and not writing anything when you probably don&#8217;t know enough about what you would be commenting on.&#8221;</p>
<p><em>. . . . there is a more professional level of citizen journalism emerging between the ranty blogger and the trained journalist. </em></p>
<p>I believe you, and I&#8217;m in favor of it. </p>
<p>A comparable well-established example of that sort of thing is citizens trained and certified to be credible severe-weather spotters/reporters.</p>
<p>In that example, you get the benefit of lots more eyes and ears, from the ranks of the general public, but you also assure pretty good quality-control. Something along those lines ought to be looked into with citizen-journalism. Any hobby or volunteering activity that&#8217;s lacking agreed-upon standards about quality, best-practices, ethical conduct, etc., won&#8217;t get taken very seriously.</p>
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		<title>By: chuck</title>
		<link>http://www.secretsofthecity.com/mnspeak/10939#comment-109656</link>
		<dc:creator>chuck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Sep 2007 03:53:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OC: Replace &quot;bloggers&quot; with &quot;ordinary citizens.&quot; :-)&lt;br /&gt;
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Nevertheless, there is a more professional level of citizen journalism emerging between the ranty blogger and the trained journalist. For example, there&#039;s not a lot of difference between what I&#039;ve edited for ABCnews.com and Rocketboom.com, except the Rocketboom pieces are looser and quirkier.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OC: Replace &#8220;bloggers&#8221; with &#8220;ordinary citizens.&#8221; <img src='http://www.secretsofthecity.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Nevertheless, there is a more professional level of citizen journalism emerging between the ranty blogger and the trained journalist. For example, there&#8217;s not a lot of difference between what I&#8217;ve edited for ABCnews.com and Rocketboom.com, except the Rocketboom pieces are looser and quirkier.</p>
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		<title>By: DL</title>
		<link>http://www.secretsofthecity.com/mnspeak/10939#comment-109626</link>
		<dc:creator>DL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Sep 2007 00:56:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bikes belong on bike-paths.  If they are in the street, they need to both keep&lt;br /&gt;
up with traffic and obey all traffic laws.  If they have a problem with that, &lt;br /&gt;
then I have no problem with the MPLS police using water cannon on them.&lt;br /&gt;
Discourteous, negligent, arrogant bikers are a traffic menace.  The roads&lt;br /&gt;
are primarily for cars and trucks.  Cars and trucks pay for them.&lt;br /&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bikes belong on bike-paths.  If they are in the street, they need to both keep<br />
up with traffic and obey all traffic laws.  If they have a problem with that, <br />
then I have no problem with the MPLS police using water cannon on them.<br />
Discourteous, negligent, arrogant bikers are a traffic menace.  The roads<br />
are primarily for cars and trucks.  Cars and trucks pay for them.</p>
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		<title>By: Kedster</title>
		<link>http://www.secretsofthecity.com/mnspeak/10939#comment-109605</link>
		<dc:creator>Kedster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Sep 2007 23:04:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I saw Chief Dolan&#039;s news release this morning and it was about what was expected.  I look forward to future releases.  The public information section of the police report states, &quot;Traffic officers followed the extremely large group of bicyclists and an undercover detail from ISAC &lt;em&gt;(MPD&#039;s Information Sharing and Analysis Center)&lt;/em&gt;, RAMSEY COUNTY SHERIFF&#039;S DEPARTMENT, and the STATE PATROL helicopter also monitored the protest ride.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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I can&#039;t post the full details of the police report, but it&#039;s public information and available from Minneapolis City Hall.&lt;br /&gt;
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The word &lt;i&gt;monitored&lt;/I&gt; implies to me that these agencies were present from the very beginning.  Does this mean this was simply a practice round for RNC?  Do they call in the Ramsey County Sheriff&#039;s Department (not even the same county!) to every Critical Mass?&lt;br /&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I saw Chief Dolan&#8217;s news release this morning and it was about what was expected.  I look forward to future releases.  The public information section of the police report states, &#8220;Traffic officers followed the extremely large group of bicyclists and an undercover detail from ISAC <em>(MPD&#8217;s Information Sharing and Analysis Center)</em>, RAMSEY COUNTY SHERIFF&#8217;S DEPARTMENT, and the STATE PATROL helicopter also monitored the protest ride.&#8221;</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t post the full details of the police report, but it&#8217;s public information and available from Minneapolis City Hall.</p>
<p>The word <i>monitored</i> implies to me that these agencies were present from the very beginning.  Does this mean this was simply a practice round for RNC?  Do they call in the Ramsey County Sheriff&#8217;s Department (not even the same county!) to every Critical Mass?</p>
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