Comments on: Mark Olson: Battered husband? http://www.secretsofthecity.com/mnspeak/10634 Minneapolis + St. Paul Sun, 22 Nov 2009 07:11:27 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Danny http://www.secretsofthecity.com/mnspeak/10634#comment-96953 Danny Fri, 13 Jul 2007 15:09:30 +0000 #comment-96953 I've always had a lot of respect for attorney Jill Clark and was quite surprised that she took on this case (How could she defend a Republican?). She started out by representing women who had faced discrimination/(sexual) harrassment in the workplace. I mostly know her for defending survivors of police brutality cases. This seems like quite a departure for her, but I've never known Jill to lose a court case. She typically does not publicize information that will work to her client's favour, which may explain the timing of the battered husband defense. Jill only cares about justice, regardless of the person or the situation. There's something that we can learn from here. I’ve always had a lot of respect for attorney Jill Clark and was quite surprised that she took on this case (How could she defend a Republican?). She started out by representing women who had faced discrimination/(sexual) harrassment in the workplace. I mostly know her for defending survivors of police brutality cases. This seems like quite a departure for her, but I’ve never known Jill to lose a court case. She typically does not publicize information that will work to her client’s favour, which may explain the timing of the battered husband defense. Jill only cares about justice, regardless of the person or the situation. There’s something that we can learn from here.

]]> By: Mark beater http://www.secretsofthecity.com/mnspeak/10634#comment-96187 Mark beater Wed, 11 Jul 2007 03:17:20 +0000 #comment-96187 Mark has a history of abusing state legislative staff and<br /> skipping the "anger management" class.<br /> <br /> This blame the victim ploy is not so believable as his <br /> personal relationship with a man-battering Christ. Mark has a history of abusing state legislative staff and
skipping the “anger management” class.

This blame the victim ploy is not so believable as his
personal relationship with a man-battering Christ.

]]> By: Tib http://www.secretsofthecity.com/mnspeak/10634#comment-95863 Tib Tue, 10 Jul 2007 04:43:41 +0000 #comment-95863 Jihads-n-slave masters can kiss my secular ass! <br /> <br /> Feeling feisty tonight, bitches. Jihads-n-slave masters can kiss my secular ass!

Feeling feisty tonight, bitches.

]]> By: OctaneBoy http://www.secretsofthecity.com/mnspeak/10634#comment-95837 OctaneBoy Tue, 10 Jul 2007 01:52:08 +0000 #comment-95837 <em>that "religious" justification for insecure men controlling low self-esteem women disgusts me, and I find it wholly incomprehensible in the 21st century.</em><br /> <br /> Wacth out with that kind of thought - Jihad will get you. Just something to consider next time you notice BurakGal is walking 10 feet behind her husband. that “religious” justification for insecure men controlling low self-esteem women disgusts me, and I find it wholly incomprehensible in the 21st century.

Wacth out with that kind of thought – Jihad will get you. Just something to consider next time you notice BurakGal is walking 10 feet behind her husband.

]]> By: Tib http://www.secretsofthecity.com/mnspeak/10634#comment-95824 Tib Tue, 10 Jul 2007 00:22:42 +0000 #comment-95824 Speaking of convenient juxtapositions, that "religious" justification for insecure men controlling low self-esteem women disgusts me, and I find it wholly incomprehensible in the 21st century. Freaking pathetic Promise Keepers. Christ, why not keep a couple of slaves while you're at it. Speaking of convenient juxtapositions, that “religious” justification for insecure men controlling low self-esteem women disgusts me, and I find it wholly incomprehensible in the 21st century. Freaking pathetic Promise Keepers. Christ, why not keep a couple of slaves while you’re at it.

]]> By: mnblrmkr http://www.secretsofthecity.com/mnspeak/10634#comment-95819 mnblrmkr Mon, 09 Jul 2007 23:38:49 +0000 #comment-95819 Don't forget the religious aspect as well. It makes an appearance in the last paragraph of the linked article:<br /> <em><br /> "Clark said that Olson told police that because of his religious beliefs - being the head of the household - that he was responsible for things that went wrong in the home, not that he committed any wrongdoing."</em><br /> <br /> Don’t forget the religious aspect as well. It makes an appearance in the last paragraph of the linked article:

“Clark said that Olson told police that because of his religious beliefs – being the head of the household – that he was responsible for things that went wrong in the home, not that he committed any wrongdoing.”

]]> By: aeklund http://www.secretsofthecity.com/mnspeak/10634#comment-95815 aeklund Mon, 09 Jul 2007 23:21:51 +0000 #comment-95815 I imagine that the fear of the consequences of leaving are always very front and center is sticking in an abusive relationship. I mean, how many murders have we had this year in the Twin Cities by a jealous/abusive person killing their partner? Several, at least. Would I rather be abused and living or free and a target for death? That's rationalization.<br /> <br /> The problem is that there's<a href="http://www.mincava.umn.edu/library/org/" target="_blank"> help often close by</a>. I imagine that the fear of the consequences of leaving are always very front and center is sticking in an abusive relationship. I mean, how many murders have we had this year in the Twin Cities by a jealous/abusive person killing their partner? Several, at least. Would I rather be abused and living or free and a target for death? That’s rationalization.

The problem is that there’s help often close by.

]]> By: aliecat http://www.secretsofthecity.com/mnspeak/10634#comment-95814 aliecat Mon, 09 Jul 2007 22:59:38 +0000 #comment-95814 I stayed in an emotionally abusive relationship because I was very young at the time and thought that he was just a mean drunk...turns out he was both mean sober and drunk, but he just used drinking as an excuse. I was also afraid of not having a boyfriend and being alone forever. There are many reasons women stay, fear of being alone, raising children alone, low self esteem, etc. I'd rather focus on reasons women leave those types of relationships, it's much more proactive and not as defeatist... I stayed in an emotionally abusive relationship because I was very young at the time and thought that he was just a mean drunk…turns out he was both mean sober and drunk, but he just used drinking as an excuse. I was also afraid of not having a boyfriend and being alone forever. There are many reasons women stay, fear of being alone, raising children alone, low self esteem, etc. I’d rather focus on reasons women leave those types of relationships, it’s much more proactive and not as defeatist…

]]> By: josie http://www.secretsofthecity.com/mnspeak/10634#comment-95813 josie Mon, 09 Jul 2007 22:53:33 +0000 #comment-95813 I think the people that stay in abusive relationships believe, for whatever reason, that they're getting what they deserve, and that makes me sad. I was brought up to believe that if he hits, you walk, because no relationship is worth that.<br /> <br /> I worked with a girl in college who left her fiance that she had been with for something like five years because he slapped her once in an argument, and it scared the bejesus out of her (rightfully so). I was really impressed - she stuck to her guns and didn't cave, no matter how many times he apologized. I wish more men and women would be like that. I think the people that stay in abusive relationships believe, for whatever reason, that they’re getting what they deserve, and that makes me sad. I was brought up to believe that if he hits, you walk, because no relationship is worth that.

I worked with a girl in college who left her fiance that she had been with for something like five years because he slapped her once in an argument, and it scared the bejesus out of her (rightfully so). I was really impressed – she stuck to her guns and didn’t cave, no matter how many times he apologized. I wish more men and women would be like that.

]]> By: The Rat http://www.secretsofthecity.com/mnspeak/10634#comment-95812 The Rat Mon, 09 Jul 2007 22:46:01 +0000 #comment-95812 Women often don't leave abusive relationships. Maybe the same rationalization is done by men. Women often don’t leave abusive relationships. Maybe the same rationalization is done by men.

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