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	<title>Comments on: Local Pol Proposes Plastic Surgery Tax</title>
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		<title>By: breast augmentation MD</title>
		<link>http://www.secretsofthecity.com/mnspeak/10096#comment-70207</link>
		<dc:creator>breast augmentation MD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Feb 2007 06:57:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Plastic Surgery is for inner as well as outer beauty</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Plastic Surgery is for inner as well as outer beauty</p>
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		<title>By: 108stitches</title>
		<link>http://www.secretsofthecity.com/mnspeak/10096#comment-69893</link>
		<dc:creator>108stitches</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Feb 2007 02:46:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The best, most effective tax systems collect from the broadest array of transactions possible at as low a rate possible.  Thats it, in its entirety.  If you want a good, fair system thats how you make it function.  So theres nothing wrong really with extending the general state sales tax to plastic surgery if it hasnt been levied there before (as well as other items that get special treatment under the sales tax now).  If youre going to have a sales tax, tax everything at low rates.&lt;br /&gt;
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The idea of essentials and non essentials is squishy - which is one reason you dont want apparatchiks like Phyllis Kahn making those determinations.  As a practical matter, shes correct in this instance, but not because shes following sound, economic reasoning.  Unfortunately this entire episode is so cliché.  Phyllis belongs to a political movement that embraces mythologies about some classes having too much $ to spend on frivolities while others suffer.  This could be a good discussion about tax policy, but unfortunately its just another round in the DFLs ongoing war to dekulakize Minnesota.&lt;br /&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The best, most effective tax systems collect from the broadest array of transactions possible at as low a rate possible.  Thats it, in its entirety.  If you want a good, fair system thats how you make it function.  So theres nothing wrong really with extending the general state sales tax to plastic surgery if it hasnt been levied there before (as well as other items that get special treatment under the sales tax now).  If youre going to have a sales tax, tax everything at low rates.</p>
<p>The idea of essentials and non essentials is squishy &#8211; which is one reason you dont want apparatchiks like Phyllis Kahn making those determinations.  As a practical matter, shes correct in this instance, but not because shes following sound, economic reasoning.  Unfortunately this entire episode is so cliché.  Phyllis belongs to a political movement that embraces mythologies about some classes having too much $ to spend on frivolities while others suffer.  This could be a good discussion about tax policy, but unfortunately its just another round in the DFLs ongoing war to dekulakize Minnesota.</p>
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		<title>By: bud jr</title>
		<link>http://www.secretsofthecity.com/mnspeak/10096#comment-69568</link>
		<dc:creator>bud jr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Feb 2007 02:33:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ranty, you&#039;re beautiful&lt;br /&gt;
what&#039;s that sadness in your eyes?&lt;br /&gt;
ranty, you&#039;re beautiful&lt;br /&gt;
I want  to place my elbows upon your thighs&lt;br /&gt;
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ranty, I think I love you&lt;br /&gt;
I think I love you&lt;br /&gt;
what&#039;s that sadness in your eyes?&lt;br /&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ranty, you&#8217;re beautiful<br />
what&#8217;s that sadness in your eyes?<br />
ranty, you&#8217;re beautiful<br />
I want  to place my elbows upon your thighs</p>
<p>ranty, I think I love you<br />
I think I love you<br />
what&#8217;s that sadness in your eyes?</p>
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		<title>By: wayne</title>
		<link>http://www.secretsofthecity.com/mnspeak/10096#comment-69273</link>
		<dc:creator>wayne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Feb 2007 17:23:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;As a general rule, Minnesota doesn&#039;t have a sales tax on &quot;necessities&quot;, ergo it is not a regressive tax on the poor. Elective plastic surgery definitely doesn&#039;t fall under that category, so it&#039;s fair game.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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But but ... how will the poor people ever become beautiful so they can be the stars of a reality TV show and then make it big as a C-list minor celebrity? You are denying them the american dream of rising above their born station in life via being the star of a televised circus!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>As a general rule, Minnesota doesn&#8217;t have a sales tax on &#8220;necessities&#8221;, ergo it is not a regressive tax on the poor. Elective plastic surgery definitely doesn&#8217;t fall under that category, so it&#8217;s fair game.</i></p>
<p>But but &#8230; how will the poor people ever become beautiful so they can be the stars of a reality TV show and then make it big as a C-list minor celebrity? You are denying them the american dream of rising above their born station in life via being the star of a televised circus!</p>
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		<title>By: The Liquid Lens</title>
		<link>http://www.secretsofthecity.com/mnspeak/10096#comment-69233</link>
		<dc:creator>The Liquid Lens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Feb 2007 14:50:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rat, your economics is merely anecdotal and suspect.  Did you read the Strib articles a few Sundays ago about higher tax states having better growth in recent years than states that reduced the tax burden?  And we&#039;re only talking the sales tax rate here, not a confiscatory luxury tax.  To get back to the original question, how many plastic surgeons do you think will end up unemployed because of sales tax?  Most businesses, even incompetent ones, survive paying sales tax, and the ones that don&#039;t fail because of their incompetence, not the sales tax. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rat, your economics is merely anecdotal and suspect.  Did you read the Strib articles a few Sundays ago about higher tax states having better growth in recent years than states that reduced the tax burden?  And we&#8217;re only talking the sales tax rate here, not a confiscatory luxury tax.  To get back to the original question, how many plastic surgeons do you think will end up unemployed because of sales tax?  Most businesses, even incompetent ones, survive paying sales tax, and the ones that don&#8217;t fail because of their incompetence, not the sales tax.</p>
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		<title>By: The Rat</title>
		<link>http://www.secretsofthecity.com/mnspeak/10096#comment-69220</link>
		<dc:creator>The Rat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Feb 2007 04:23:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In hell. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In hell.</p>
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		<title>By: milt friedman</title>
		<link>http://www.secretsofthecity.com/mnspeak/10096#comment-69216</link>
		<dc:creator>milt friedman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Feb 2007 03:17:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why, Rat ... you&#039;re turning into a republican.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why, Rat &#8230; you&#8217;re turning into a republican.</p>
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		<title>By: The Rat</title>
		<link>http://www.secretsofthecity.com/mnspeak/10096#comment-69210</link>
		<dc:creator>The Rat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Feb 2007 02:10:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;As for the people who sew the dresses, mine the bling, prep the patients, etc., they are the people getting left behind by an underfunded education system, rising tuition, inadequate transportation, etc.&lt;/em&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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So when they lose their job, because you&#039;ve taxed the products they&#039;ve produced too highly, what happens then? They get better education and public transportation?&lt;br /&gt;
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There&#039;s precedent for that, too. Luxury boats were taxed pretty high at one point, so people stopped buying them. Who do you think got hurt? &lt;br /&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>As for the people who sew the dresses, mine the bling, prep the patients, etc., they are the people getting left behind by an underfunded education system, rising tuition, inadequate transportation, etc.</em></p>
<p>So when they lose their job, because you&#8217;ve taxed the products they&#8217;ve produced too highly, what happens then? They get better education and public transportation?</p>
<p>There&#8217;s precedent for that, too. Luxury boats were taxed pretty high at one point, so people stopped buying them. Who do you think got hurt? </p>
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		<title>By: The Rat</title>
		<link>http://www.secretsofthecity.com/mnspeak/10096#comment-69209</link>
		<dc:creator>The Rat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Feb 2007 02:05:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Rat, since when is it punishing the wealthy to treat their luxuries like ordinary peoples&#039; luxuries? &lt;/em&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Let&#039;s talk actual punishment,&lt;br /&gt;
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Would you be in favor of income-based traffic violation fines? Say a rich man or woman got caught speeding, they should pay a larger fine than someone who makes less money?&lt;br /&gt;
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Some parts of the world have that requirement.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Rat, since when is it punishing the wealthy to treat their luxuries like ordinary peoples&#8217; luxuries? </em></p>
<p>Let&#8217;s talk actual punishment,</p>
<p>Would you be in favor of income-based traffic violation fines? Say a rich man or woman got caught speeding, they should pay a larger fine than someone who makes less money?</p>
<p>Some parts of the world have that requirement.</p>
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		<title>By: bobby_b</title>
		<link>http://www.secretsofthecity.com/mnspeak/10096#comment-69167</link>
		<dc:creator>bobby_b</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Feb 2007 21:52:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;&lt;em&gt;Running a country with 300 million people (or a state with more than 4 million) takes more than 6 laws.&quot;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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 - - -&lt;br /&gt;
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This is a scary line in a thread about state government.  State government doesn&#039;t &quot;run&quot; the state.  It runs governmental functions.  I understand that some would like those governmental functions to eventually subsume private functions, but, well, one, that&#039;s what the pilitical wars are all about, and, two, they ain&#039;t over yet.&lt;br /&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;<em>Running a country with 300 million people (or a state with more than 4 million) takes more than 6 laws.&#8221;</em></p>
<p> &#8211; - -</p>
<p>This is a scary line in a thread about state government.  State government doesn&#8217;t &#8220;run&#8221; the state.  It runs governmental functions.  I understand that some would like those governmental functions to eventually subsume private functions, but, well, one, that&#8217;s what the pilitical wars are all about, and, two, they ain&#8217;t over yet.</p>
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