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The Three-Pointer: An Explainable Defeat

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Game #37, Home Game #19: Minnesota 96, Miami 99

Season Record: 11-26

1. Don't Overthink It

When your shooters can't shoot and your passers can't pass, you lose. Al Jefferson and Mike Miller combined for 5-21 FG Tuesday night at the Target Center. Bassy Telfair had one assist and five turnovers. Had the team's two most accomplished scorers been able to put very makeable attempts through the hoop, and had the squad's slickest and savviest passer been able to eschew stupid gaffes slinging the rock, the Wolves beat the Heat by double digits. And yes, it really is that simple, although that doesn't prevent us from dissecting the details, including a coaching error by Kevin McHale in the 4th quarter, another superb game from Randy Foye and overall solid team play in terms of effort and understanding how to set up the execution.

But first, the basics.

Big Al never got settled into any sort of rhythm or rhyme scheme with his footwork or his patience. Normally, Jefferson sets up defenders the way Greg Maddux sets up hitters: He shows them stuff they think they can handle, then alters it slightly and makes them look foolish. The longer the game goes on, the more his opponent is guessing and pressing. Tonight he had the deservedly obscure 6-9 center Joel Anthony on him, a second-year pro out of UNLV. It felt like he was catching and shooting a little too quickly--not showing him much--perhaps because Miami was coming with the double-teams on the move to the hoop rather than the catch and he wanted to beat it. No matter: The shots were all choice looks from in or just outside the paint and Jefferson missed five out of six without drawing a single foul. With power forward Udonis Haslem on him in the second period, he shot 2-4 FG, again with no FT. In the second half he was 1-4 FG and 1-2 FT, finishing 4-14 FG with just 9 points in 31:18. Some of this may be due to the inevitable adjustment Jefferson must make if Foye and the other Wolves continue to move the ball well and shoot the lights out from outside--as I said, the longer he can put an opponent in the torture chamber, the bigger his advantage in some respects. But I don't think this was a pecking order thing so much as simply a cold night--it happens. And after the game, Jefferson was likewise generous toward his teammates and critical of himself in a manner that demonstrated that he too knew (or strongly suspects) that it was just one of those nights. As McHale said, "Al has been our workhorse all year long...he had good shots, they just didn't go in.

Mike Miller, on the other hand, is really becoming an irritant, and developing a bit of a soap opera, with his disinclination-dysfunction combo platter on his jump shot. People who say Miller is not getting good looks either aren't watching the games or are seeing it with Miller's skewed vision. To repeat myself from a half-dozen other treys: It is mystifying to watch a former rookie of the year, 6th man of the year, dynamite sharpshooter from long and mid-range consistently not only turn down shots, but not even consider them as he is embarking on dribbles or accelerating the ball movement, as if he's some sort of glue guy who is in the game for his defense and has the offensive role of doing no harm but not much good either. As often as not, the shots he's turning down are at least as good as the shots he's taking. That seemed true tonight, even if the shots he took were generally good shots. He missed 6 out of 7, including 5 out of 6 three-pointers, and the three he missed in the nip-and-tuck 4th quarter, all taken with the score tied or the Wolves up 2, were killers. McHale pointedly did not say Miller had been a workhorse this year. Instead, when I asked if Miller is turning down too many shots, the coach replied, "He's got to be comfortable. We've got to get him comfortable. He's a world-class shooter." Maybe so, but the world ain't what it used to be and this shooter is much more interested in trying to drop dimes for Rodney Carney.

Then there is Telfair. As with Big Al, the caliber of competition certainly wasn't the issue. I complained about the Wolves dumping the chance to hang on to point guard Mario Chalmers ever since it happened on draft night, but Chalmers wasn't nearly as effective as last year's punchline at the point for the Heat, Chris Quinn--and neither one matters much when Dwyane Wade is doing everything but washing the sweat bands for this team. Yet Telfair's lone assist of the evening was a fairly pedestrian dish over to Foye for a 27-foot trey in the final two minutes of the game. His turnovers, on the other hand, were memorable, including a horrible pass behind Carney in transition--a certain layup with the right feed--after a steal from Gomes when the Wolves were up by a point with 1:14 to play. And coming out for the second half Telfair seemed hell bent on erasing Minnesota's 6 point lead by driving for an ill-advised layup that was promptly blocked by Anthony and gift-wrapping steals for Wade and Shawn Marion, all within the first 1:55 of the third quarter.

Yes, Bassy would have had more than one assist if Jefferson and Miller had been able to hit the broad side of a barn with their shots. But, again like Jefferson, he just seemed off on Tuesday, writing his signature plays (the dipsy doodle half-drive and kick, the rapid fire angle zip to the wing, the choice lob-feed to the post) with a stiff wrist. And, like Jefferson, it may be because his duties were being naturally usurped by the do-everything team MVP of the past week or two. Which brings us to...

2. Foye and Other Feel-Good Notations

The Foye-Wade matchup was worth the price of admission, and dramatized the disparate styles of the two teams. Wade had 31 points, 8 assists and 3 rebounds, while Foye was 29 points, 8 assists and 5 rebounds, but Wade got his points at the free throw line (13-16 FT) and was 0-1 from three-point territory, while Foye shot 5-10 from beyond the arc and never got to the line once. Foye had fewer turnovers (3 to Wade's 5) but the MVP candidate came up with 3 steals and 3 blocks--including a crucial stuff of Foye with the Heat down a point with 14 seconds to play--compared to Foye's 1 steal. Yes, Wade gets the benefit of the doubt on more officials' calls (or, when it comes to traveling, non-calls) than perhaps anyone in the league. There was a play tonight where he stumbled a bit on the crossover dribble and knocked it out of bounds and the refs were going to call a foul on Carney until the crowd went nuts and the replay showed how absurd such a ruling would be--the play became "an inadvertent whistle. But let's give the man his due: He gets calls because he forces the action, excels at changing direction without down-shifting while penetrating to the hoop, and has a supple, acrobatic body and a fine shooting touch.

But we all know that. What we are currently learning, however, is that Foye is becoming a force to be reckoned with in his own right. Matching up with Wade was a nice pulse-taking of Foye's current heroics, the sort of daunting challenge that helps better determine whether this exalted standard is the new form or a fad, whether the future for  #4 at the 2-guard is reliable or rickety. On this night, at least, he solidified his standing as a second chip beside Big Al going forward in the team's future.

But let's reorient for a minute. Sometimes we get so wound up in the future and big picture planning, especially since the KG trade, that we don't absorb the palpable joys of right now. And right now Randy Foye is playing the best basketball of his life. When Foye didn't have to burn so much energy dogging Wade as the latter sat to start the second quarter, he quickly became the dominant force on the court. The Wolves were up one, 21-20, when Foye found Carney for three on the Wolves' first possession of the period. Then he hit a running banker from 7 feet out. Miller hit a trey for his only make of the night, and after a Michael Beasley miss, Foye came down the court just oozing confidence. He yo-yo dribbed in the space between the foul line and the top of the key and then suddenly zipped an overhand pass to Kevin Love crashing hard from the left baseline, hit him in stride and forced the Heat to foul Love at the rim. It was a star play--a simple move made spectacular by the surprisingly speed and stylistic finesse in which it was executed. If Foye had tried it two weeks ago, it likely would have ended in a turnover, or felt like showboating even if it had been successful. But he's in a zone now, and while he won't remain at this level, a player remembers, and cherishes, when he looks, feels and acts this good--it lingers in the DNA. It is the opposite of a player being slightly humiliated, which we describe as a "lesson" in the "learning curve."  Right before our eyes, Foye has graduated, and now he's doing the schooling, doling out the lessons, and writing a little of the lesson plan to boot.

Right after Love converted those free throws, Beasley missed a layup and the Wolves came back down and provided the second end of my favorite back-to-back offensive possessions of the year thus far. Right after Foye's dish to Love, everybody got in the act, and Target Center fans were treated to the best perimeter passing display since KG departed--at least eight dishes, snapped off with militaristic rigor and communistic spirit, culminating in a Foye trey that bumped the lead to 36-24 and compelled Miami to rush Wade back on to the court. If Minnesota keeps playing like that, and like they did versus Milwaukee the other night, the frigid scalpers will have fewer ducats to unload at higher prices outside the arena.

3. Concluding Pros and Cons

Almost everything Kevin McHale tried came up roses during the 5-game winning streak (well, except for Craig Smith starting), but it is perhaps no coincidence that he made his biggest mistake since the second half fiasco in Dallas--the last time the Wolves had lost before Tuesday--by leaving his second unit crew in too long in the 4th quarter. Specifically, Love, Cardinal and Miller (the white grinders?) stayed in the game with Foye and Carney from 10:03 to 2:48 remaining in the 4th, keeping Jefferson and Gomes and Telfair on the bench, enabling Miami to turn Minnesota's 3-point lead to start the period into a 2-point deficit. To his credit, McHale fessed up, noting that the unit had had an excellent stint to start the second quarter (and were in fact involved in the two plays I just rhapsodized about above), and that he kept thinking they were going to do the same in the 4th as the minutes ticked by. "Looking at it now, I wish I had gone to Ryan and Al a little earlier," the coach conceded during the postgame. A gracious Jefferson demurred, saying the second unit deserved the burn and that "BC and Kevin Love were doing a great job."

As we handicap the rooks moving through the season, my impressions of my first and only look at Beasley this year begin with surprise at how slight he is physically and how unpolished his game is. He had a horrible first half--was outplayed by Brian Cardinal, which is never good for anyone's resume, let alone the #2 pick of the draft--but grabbed a key offensive rebound off a missed foul shot with 8 seconds to cinch the win, and did seem to improve as the game went on.

Rodney Carney continues to stroke the corner trey, and finished tonight 3-6 from behind the arc, and second on the team  behind Foye with 15 points. He also was a decent option defending Miami's quick swingmen, earning 30:51. Carney and Miller are rotating in together, which makes sense in terms of Carney being able to help cover for the slow-footed Miller on defense, but gives Miller an excuse to pass up rather than shoot the trey because Carney is so willing to let it fly.

Nobody even notices when Love snatches 9 rebounds, including 4 offensive boards in 24:22. He's also exercising much better shot selection, preferring to pass more when he's beneath the hoop and shoot more from midrange.

For comic relief, check out this slamonline.com interview with Rashad McCants

http://slamonline.com/online/nba/2009/01/keeping-up-with-rashad-mccants/

28 Reader Comments

Captain America (not verified)07:49am
Jan 14

Hi Britt:

Nice analysis as always.

For more comic relief, I recommend visiting McCant's web site. No surprise, it's all about "ME."

I can't complain, McCants has always been gracious with me. But even his news section on his web site is all about his contributions such as they were.

Best regards....

Andy G07:54am
Jan 14

This is one of those treys where I just nod my head in agreement, while reading it. So, even though I have nothing to add or take issue with, I'll just repeat your point about leaving the second unit in too long, and leaving our best player (and best 4th Quarter scorer) on the bench until the last two minutes of the game.

It sort of goes against McHale's general coaching philosophy--rather than tinker and micromanage, he likes to say how he does his job in practice and the players get the games. This isn't directly on that point, but I'd like to think that part of his philosophy is riding your best horses in the 4th Quarter, even if they've been struggling and even if Brian Cardinal took two charges (the second of which was questionable--at best). It wasn't hard to predict that we'd eventually fall short without Al in there, and that's what happened. Although, if we don't make those terrible passes down the stretch, we might've been able to hold on, regardless.

Foye has been really fun to watch. The more that he builds confidence through his picturesque jumpshot and builds off it with dribble-drives to the cup, the better off he'll be. When he was playing point, he seemed to end up driving baseline all the time, and never quite knowing if or when to shoot. Everything looks easier to him when he bombs a few treys and builds off that rhythm.

Just A Fan09:29am
Jan 14

Mike Miller's inability to hit wide open 3's last night was the absolute killer and left me very concerned about his future with us. His last 3 from the left corner caused me to almost drown in my soda - he short armed the shot! That is something you almost never see a professional player do - certainly not a player of Miller's reputation. Meaning that rather than releasing the ball natural, he hesitated during the shot and attempted to guide the ball to the hole. He missed short (as expected - short armed shots are always short). At least he knew it - as I recall he hustled in and either got the rebound or helped get it.

Up until now, I was conflicted as to whether Miller's issue was physical (ankle) or mental. The short armed shot helps settle it for me - it is a mental issue all the way. Which is a big problem. I don't see Miller long term as a key building block for the Twolve, so it is difficult for me to say, let's give him the minutes to work through it. (As Britt has pointed out, this has been going on for a while and he has had lots of minutes). Yet, with each missed shot, his trade value diminishes. Argh! Not a good situation for a team that desperately needs another 3 pt shooter.

Last comment on Miller. I think he is so mentally upset with his shooting that it is effecting other parts of his game, as Britt points out. The failure to block out Beasley was a huge mistake and possibly the deciding factor in the game - forcing us to make a 3 to tie instead of being able to make any old bucket to win.

I am going to give McHale some slack on the 4th quarter rotation because I thought Cardinal/Love were doing a far better job defensively than Al/Gomes/Smith. While the focus was on the great offensive ball movement of the second unit, one tends to forget how well they played defense. Cardinal took a charge, had a couple of swipes that lead to steals, and aggressively defended the pick and roll. Love controlled the glass. Al, with his offense suffering (which I agree happens sometimes), choose not to expend his energy on defense. His show on the pick and roll was laughable - consistently allowing Wade to proceed to dribble through the defense (resulting in all those free throws). I hope, behind close doors, that McHale reminds Al that it would be far easier to "remember" to sub him in during crunch time if we knew we were getting both offense and defense.

Dr.K (not verified)09:37am
Jan 14

I have a slightly different take. What I saw was a game where ball movement became paramount. The series of passes that Britt references that resulted in the Foye three was reminiscent of Phoenix in their best passing days. It actually took my breath away. Conversely, when Big Al got put in -- too tardily in the minds of some of you -- at the end of the game, was there a human being on the planet who doubted that he was going to try to back his player (or, all the players on the other team if they came over to double/triple/quadruple/quintuple him) down into the box and put up a shot? Obviously Miami had no such doubts, because they moved in and stripped him. Al may be our best player and our safest option, but he's also our most predictable option. From his look in the huddle, you sensed that he had made the decision to shoot before he even got back in the game. To my mind, it was kind of a "low post McCants" moment: the action was inevitable; only the outcome was in doubt.

McHale is up to something interesting here. He appears to be trying to show the guys how the game should be played by putting a team on the floor that plays in that fashion, even if the players are not the best on the team. It's like he's using a superb scout team to school his own best players. I think it has to do with teaching, not with punishing. Is it an issue of faulty game management? Perhaps, to an extent. But I think it is more an issue of Kevin loving the game as a team sport, and he is loathe to change things up when the team looks most like a team. And, sadly, this kind of diagonal slash with ball movement game is something that Al does not do well, nor does Bassy, whom I love, because he too often ends up making decisions under duress. Foye, on the other hand, is playing wonderfully under control right now. He is the straw that stirs the drink -- which is what he always claimed he should be. The question going forward is how to use Bassy's quickness and Foye's non-point guard catalytic abilities together.

So, to conclude: I see a style evolving; I see a team evolving. The best team players are not necessarily the best basketball players. The challenge for the rest of the year is to find a way to get the best ball players playing the best team ball. For my money, Al's offensive scrum at the end of the game was an indication that, at least in his case, we still have a ways to go.

Nate09:52am
Jan 14

Given Miller's off night from 3 point range, I thought McHale should have put Love in for Jefferson on those free throws. Love gets the rebound, looks for the outlet (likely not there) and passes ahead to Foye or whomever. At least Love has a prayer of hitting a 3, unlike big Al, and you can't assume that you get that rebound. I just like McHale assumed they would make that free throw.

Also, I hate that Foye tried to draw the foul on the last three-pointer. If he just takes the shot, instead of attempting to fall into Wade, maybe he makes the shot. I love Foye, but I think trying to draw the foul is a mistake. you try to make the shot first.

antonymous (not verified)10:20am
Jan 14

Not much to add other than the echo that this game was a tale of two offenses. I don't fault McHale for keeping Al on the bench in the 4th - that second unit was moving the ball well on offense, and is just playing better team basketball. Al wasn't playing well - Miami's well-timed doubleteams were rushing his shot, in which case even Joel Anthony can defend you.

My take on Beasley was the same: I was excited every time he touched the ball on the wing because there was a good chance he'd do something dumb with the ball.

This is a winnable game if shots are falling, but more importantly, this product on the floor is far superior to what we were watching earlier in the season.

antonymous (not verified)10:32am
Jan 14

Last note - I can't remember if I read it here or not, but Kevin Love is the 4th-best rebounder in the league on a per-minute basis. His confidence seems better lately (though it's probably too soon to tinker with it by starting him). Do you think he's better on our team anchoring that second unit, or should be considered for Craig's spot with the first team? Even in a non-starting role, I think we need to consider getting Love off the bench with or before Miller/Carney.

W+ Will (not verified)10:36am
Jan 14

Is Mike Miller just putting too much pressure on himself? Rodney Carney has pass McCants on the pecking order and right now - he's pulling away from Miller.

Maybe the Wolves should think about moving him to save some cap space in case free-agent to be Rodney Carney - does play consistently well for the rest of the season and grows as a player. It's not inconceivable that that could happen and athletiscm is rare on this roster.

pagingstanleyroberts (not verified)10:51am
Jan 14

Based on what has been said about McHale's attempt to teach his players about how to play through who plays, is it possible that he's doing the same with Miller by playing a guy who's much more willing yet less able to shoot from 3? Carney knows that he's a corner trey guy, so that's what he mostly takes, but if he's open, it's going up.

There's really no excuse for Miller not to take them in any circumstance. They should be shooting over 20 3s a game, and who better to take 6-10 per game than him?

levi11:16am
Jan 14

Wow. That McCants interview indicates that someone is incredibly delusional about Rashad's ability to play NBA level basketball. And dig how much of a locker room cheerleader he is. Oh my!

I found it interesting that he says that McHale has not been talking to him about what what McCants must do to get back on the court. Perhaps it indicates that McHale is trying to use some sort of weird passive aggression strategy to get Rashad to play better.

Personally, I gathered that Rashad is on McHale's permanent shit list.

Keith Thomas (not verified)11:47am
Jan 14

if only we had some inclination that McCants could be a moody me-first ballhog, then the T-Wolves wouldn't have drafted him. Oh wait, I guess that was being talked about since his Freshman year of college (sigh).

Rascal Flatts (not verified)12:04pm
Jan 14

*Jefferson needs to learn that stars do other things when not scoring. Taking charges, running the floor hard for easy buckets, and doggedly tracking down loose balls should not be beneath him.

*Foye is doing everything we could have possibly ever hoped for. This last 12 game stretch he is playing at what most would consider his ceiling when drafted out of 'Nova. Let's hope he keeps it up.

*I think Miller will come around eventually. It's Carney I don't trust. I love the energy and athleticism, but I question his ability to keep knocking down those long shots. He takes them a little too enthusiastically in my opinion.

*We desperately need to make Craig Smith obsolete and replace his minutes with a big man that moves Jeff over to PF part time. Varejao, Dalembert, and Brendan Haywood are veteran options via trade or free agency....Out of the draft, Cole Aldrich or Jerome Jordan might be had with the Miami pick, but both would require patience. I'd prefer we go the veteran route and focus our draft on guards and forwards with big upside.

Timby (not verified)12:06pm
Jan 14

It should be noted that Danny Crawford was one of the referees last night, and his crew always alters the game because he only calls flagrant fouls in the paint and superstars like Wade are pampered (which is why Dwayne Wade can get to the foul line [or take 3 steps] consistently but no one else - the play Britt noted where the "inadvertent whistle" was blown happened right in front of him.)

I noticed that Miller crashed to the floor hard early in the game, and seemed to spend the rest of the night flexing his hands like they hurt. Given his lousy shooting night, I was disappointed right away that McHale put Miller in the game for Marion's free throws at the end (which Beasley took over Miller,) as Love was a much better option.

I think McHale favors the veteran Miller over the rookie Love, but Love's play has really been energetic and intelligent over the past month, we know he rebounds better than Miller and he had every bit as good a chance of making a three last night. Love's starting to justify that top 5 draft position. At this point he's much more polished than Beasley, though Beasley will eventually be a consistent big-time scorer.

SettlingForJumpers (not verified)12:16pm
Jan 14

Even in his worst slump, I'd prefer Mike Miller eight days a week over McCants. He isn't shooting the ball well or often enough, but I refuse to believe one of the best pure shooters in the game has forgotten how to shoot.

He needs to be more selfish. Take a few contested shots. Not make that extra pass to Carney.

What he doesn't do is waste time trying to set up a one-on-ones. He rebounds,

drives the lane, hustles, takes some ball-handling pressure off Bassy and Foye and generally keeps the ball moving when he chooses not to shoot.

Bassy did not have one of his better games, though his offense is really coming along. The lack of assists does not trouble me as much as the 5 TOs because he was, with good reason, deferring to Foye most of the night. But the uptick in TOs surprises me.

Generally Bassy's increasingly aggressive, attacking style of play will result in more TOs, and that's a tradeoff I can live with as long as his passes are resulting in baskets that wouldn't have happened otherwise. (Nash has never had a stellar A/TO but Calderon whose team struggles to win 50% of its games has a ratio that's off the charts).

But Bassy's TOs tend come in bunches and at really bad times.

Just A Fan12:24pm
Jan 14

Timby,

The situation was that we were out of time outs. McHale had to put his shooters in the game between the free throws. While I love Love, it was the right call to use Miller. But at 6'7", with a 35 lb advantage, Miller should have easily boxed out Beasley (a generous 6'10"). As I said, it changed the game.

Nate,

Foye was in a lose-lose position on that last shot. First, everyone in the arena (and the dozens watching at home), knew Foye was getting the ball. Second, he was being guarded by Wade. No way Wade allows him to get any kind of a look. Foye did his best, but I knew it was not going to happen.

Finally, I would like to see Love keep coming off the bench, but to have his time start earlier and end a little later. Let him keep building his confidence against the 2nd teamers - just lengthen his court time a minute or so on both ends of each shift getting him into the high 20's.

JonesinForNikola (not verified)01:12pm
Jan 14

Last night on NBAtv after highlights of the game Chris Webber dropped this nugget of insight:
"Minnesota doesn't play as young and as bad as they really are."

Dadamstein (not verified)01:37pm
Jan 14

Saw a nugget on ESPN or somewhere stating Miller was not happy. If so, is he trying to play his way out of town?

Shoot the ball already! Something ain't right with they guy...

stop-n-pop (not verified)02:40pm
Jan 14

As someone who has defended Shaddy in the past, that interview just showed that he needs medication more than anything else. Seriously, it was that delusional. This was my favorite passage:

SLAM: Do you feel like you’re a starter or a sixth man, what is it about the time you are getting that you’re struggling with?
RM: I mean, while I’ve been in the League, I haven’t had much time as a starter; although, we won a couple of games when I started. It’s just whatever situation you’re put in. I’ve often been put in the situation where I’m coming off the bench and being known as a reserve. I think that I can get more things being a starter because you play more minutes and you get a longer stretch of time. That longer stretch of time is where you can put a lot of points on the board, a lot of rebounds and assists. As a starter you get to play a complete game, that’s why all the All-Stars in the league do their thing, because they play complete games and a substantial amount of minutes.

SLAM: What’s the thing you’re most comfortable doing out on the floor?
RM: I definitely feel like handling the ball, not just to score the ball, but just be able to facilitate things and put other guys in the position to score. I’m not a true point guard and that’s not the position that I claim to play, but being like an off-guard who can handle the ball and drive, shoot and pass like a DWade, Kobe Bryant and LeBron James. Those guys are hard to stop because they have that triple threat like that, and that’s the kind of guy I think I am.

How self-unaware can one man possibly be? The guy has lost it.

Haltay (not verified)03:30pm
Jan 14

I didn't get home to watch any of the game until the last five minutes, so it's tough for me to make any judgments about it, but I'll try anyway:

1) Last night made me appreciate the winning streak and the general increase in level of play, but emphasized to me the youth of this team. The turnovers by Love, Telfair, and Jefferson at the end were back-breaking mistakes that would not have been made by a veteran team. It has been a blast to follow these guys as they have developed, but they are still very young and can't have much big-game experience.

2) As much as I have tended to dislike Kevin Love for this team, there is no denying his rebounding aptitude and there is no reason that he shouldn't have been in through the end of the 4th quarter. A greater rebounding presence would have been much more beneficial on the second to last possession that resulted in Carney's three and the Miami free throws. I love Carney, his athleticism, and the way he's been playing, but I don't think he should be the one taking big shots at the end of games when we have other players capable and need better rebounding.

levi09:39pm
Jan 14

I just re-read Dr K's "low post McCants" metaphor for Al Jefferson. Beauty! A pretty fair comparison, when I thought about it.

H (not verified)03:07am
Jan 15

To address the repeated concerns about athletic, defensive length in the frontcourt, how about Craig Smith and Kevin Ollie to Phoenix for Robin Lopez, Dee Brown, and Alando Tucker? Phoenix gets two known, roll-playing quantities for their win-now-or-else situation: a more reliable vet to backup the point, and a known producer at the 4 who can play opposite both Shaq and Stoudemire right now. We get a peek at the lesser Lopez and don't take any hefty salaries back. I understand that Robin Lopez's ceiling is above the Rhino's, but what good does that do them in three (or even two) years?

Paul (ikrushlots) (not verified)10:12am
Jan 15

We can talk about all the other guys, but for the future of this team only three players matter: Al, Foye and Love.

I'm encouraged by Foye and Love. Over the past 12 games, Foye is averaging 20.6 points, 3.5 assists and 4.5 rebounds. More importantly, he looks much more comfortable in his new role. He also is starting to look like a go-to guy on the floor.

Since Love started consistently getting 20 minutes per game 9 games ago, he is averaging 10 points and 10 rebounds. He should be playing 30 minutes. The idea that Jefferson and Love can't play together is not backed by the numbers. Some of the Wolves best lineups feature Love-Jefferson, according to 82games.com.

Paul (ikrushlots) (not verified)10:13am
Jan 15

We can talk about all the other guys, but for the future of this team only three players matter: Al, Foye and Love.

I'm encouraged by Foye and Love. Over the past 12 games, Foye is averaging 20.6 points, 3.5 assists and 4.5 rebounds. More importantly, he looks much more comfortable in his new role. He also is starting to look like a go-to guy on the floor.

Since Love started consistently getting 20 minutes per game 9 games ago, he is averaging 10 points and 10 rebounds. He should be playing 30 minutes. The idea that Jefferson and Love can't play together is not backed by the numbers. Some of the Wolves best lineups feature Love-Jefferson, according to 82games.com.

weak wrists, short shot (not verified)11:19am
Jan 15

Carney's reliability as a shooter is interesting.

His standing, catch-and-shoot shot looks very reliable - and all of his makes against the Heat were either of this variety or dunk/lay-ups.

However when he tries to take a jump shot off the move - whether it's a drive to the rim or a lateral step to clear the defense - bad things happen.

Admittedly, it's a pretty small sample size at the moment, but that seems to be the pattern.

levi02:40pm
Jan 15

Paul notes that several of the 5-man lineups that combine Love & Jefferson are some of the better combos that the Wolves have deployed. Although "true", there are also several of the Love/Jefferson combos that are pretty bad (i.e. double digit +/-). In reality, the sample size is far too small to really judge. The accepted number of minutes for comparisons like this is 300 and were talking about combos that have played together somewheres between 18 - 48 minutes.

I really hate contemplating that "The Plan" is starting Foye at the "2", Love at the "4", and Jefferson at the "5" as the future of this club. I mean, even with superstar PGs and SFs it just doesn't fly for me.

But hey, why not plug in some bottom feeding options for next year? Say Alan Iverson at point and maybe Darius Miles at the trey. Geez, I might even pay to see that!

levi03:07pm
Jan 15

Hey "H" - I like your thinking re that the Rhino would complement Shaq & Amare and thus might be a chip in a trade to get R.Lopez from PHO. But wasn't Dee Brown just released from the Suns? And Ollie can't help them much for awhile anyways.

OverDrive (not verified)11:21am
Jan 16

Britt: Thank you for such high quality sports writing to feed my mind's eye. Storytelling is perhaps the most interesting and persuasive writing style.

I am a firm believer that words have real power. It bothers me when players and commentators use racial speech when talking about other members of the same race - claiming that in that context it is somehow justified as self-deprecating humor. Just because we think it - doesn't mean we should say it - because the mere act of saying it gives it power and perpetuates the problem that most of us agree needs to be resolved. A grinder is a grinder without any color embellishment. Manu Ginobili is no grinder.

By the way, readers should grab the opportunity to read Mr. Robson's writing on other topics any chance they get, e.g.:

http://www.minnpost.com/artsarena/2009/01/16/5918/can_you_buy_yourself_o...

http://minnesotaindependent.com/4352/how-tim-pawlenty-made-his-case-for-...

http://www.minnesotamonthly.com/media/Minnesota-Monthly/October-2008/Dre...

http://www.secretsofthecity.com/magazine/commentary/gray-matters/music-h...

Jackson (not verified)08:33pm
Jan 20

Hello Britt. Great blog as always. I am writing on this page since it will get fewer views and I just have a few suggestions regarding your blog but I don't know what the private email line might be.
I was reading in the current post about Henry Abbott and True Hoop. You expressed that you are one of the few sports bloggers that can get paid and work independently of signing some bigass restrictive contract and be co-opted by the man.
I know that you are a good sports writer. You know that you are a good sports writer. It just seems that linking yourself to this little online magazine that keeps changing its name is thinking small. I don't mean to destroy a beautiful thing here but I think you are missing a real opportunity.
I visit quite a few web sites in my daily travels. Most of them are a little guy who just likes to write about something and does so consistently. He builds up an audience. He gets advertisers. And he becomes very successful. But in every case this guy got his own url and his own place to do so. It is not expensive to get your own website. It is not difficult to have someone make a basic sports blog structure.
I don't know what deal you have with this online magazine, but you have to realize that most of your money is going to them. And what do they really provide?
Your readers don't care if they go to "secrets of on the ball in the city.com' or "brittrobson.com". Honestly, we don't. We just click our bookmark every couple days and read the good stuff. You could be getting all the moola, or you could be splitting it with some well-meaning but niche operator.
And assuming that this undertaking did go well, you could branch out. Bring in some buddies to write guest columns. I'm sure you've got talented buddies who could use the work. Don't we all?
And then in a few years time, instead of people talking about this Henry Abbott's network, they would be talking about Britt Robson's network.
You might be asking yourself why does this dumbass give a rip about this? I am not sure. I guess I just see a real easy opportunity here. And I am afraid it is being passed by. Thanks for your time and my apologies for being so forward.

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