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Wolves Sign Telfair and Gomes

Both of these deals are far better news than the earlier locking up of Craig Smith for two years. Although the Wolves now have 15 guys under contract for the coming year, Telfair is the only one who could accurately be described as a point guard. Randy Foye is a "combo" guard, more Brandon Roy than Jose Calderon. Nobody will ever accuse Bassy of being able to play any other position.

The local hype machine tried to portray Al Jefferson as the most pleasant surprise of the package wrought in the KG deal, but Big Al was a distant third on that count behind Telfair and Gomes, in that order. Jefferson put up monster numbers during the second half of his final year in Boston and showed every sign of being the low-post load that appeared wearing #25 last year. His inconsistent and underdeveloped defense was likewise no surprise. Bassy, on the other hand, was almost universally considered an immature bust, his premature career beset by clanking jumpers, lousy on-court decision-making, and a weapons incident that fed the stereotype of a NYC prep star fallen prey to too much playground ball veneration.

From his first day in Minnesota, Telfair was anything but that guy, proving himself to be nearly as modest off the court as he was industrious, and increasingly sage, on the hardwood. He still couldn't swish a jumper if his reputation depended upon it (and leave-'em-alone defenses indicated that it did), but his ability to step up and give his teammates a taste of what the various sets in Wittman's half court system looked like with a true point on the perimeter proved to be invaluable in the development of Jefferson, McCants and the rest of the team's scorers.

The Telfair signing feels like a rare bit of good news for those hoping Rashad McCants doesn't get lost in the personnel shuffle. Bassy and Shaddy always felt like a complementary backcourt duo, and sure enough, Telfair's plus/minus numbers with McCants are easily better than with anyone else on the perimeter. The Wolves averaged 93 points per 48 with Telfair last season, but that number jumped to 100 pp48 when McCants was riding shotgunner on the wing, without inflating the 103 pp48 the Wolves ceded on D in Telfair's minutes. One hopes that Foye is paired in the starting lineup with Mike Miller and that Telfair and Shaddy come in together.

Ryan Gomes was a bit of a surprise only in that you hear about guys doing the "little things," but it is very tough to appreciate until it's laid out on a daily basis. Gomes was an inconsistent shooter early last year, especially from long range, and he suffered the embarrassment of being the woefully undersized power forward beside Jefferson's undersized center, but naturally registered no complaint. I've extolled his virtues in other fairly recent threads and think whatever Glen Taylor and co. forked over to get him was well spent, so long as it was below the MLE. Gomes provides flexibility, continuity, an easy-going balm in the locker room during a long season. He's bright and well-spoken with the media and fans, enhancing the image of the star-crossed franchise. And I suspect that he will be thrust in different roles and also see his minutes fluctuate quite a bit--being able to accept that uncertainty without getting sour or mopey is a huge benefit to a ballclub still rapidly and comprehensively building on the fly, without anyone being really certain how things are going to shake out. Put it this way, if Craig Smith is worth $4.8 million over the next two years (more than had been previously reported) than Gomes is worth double that, and is probably receiving less. In contrast with Smith, Bassy's near-identitical $4.8 m over two years, with a $2.7 m option on a third, is more of a bargain.

As mentioned earlier, Minnesota now has 15 players signed, with Kevin McHale expressing the opinion that Chris Richard will also join the fold. Presumably this means goodbye to Kirk Snyder, who showed promise last season and should find a spot at the end of a good team's roster (I'd say the Celts, who remain a little thin and wouldn't hurt their defensive identity with Snyder on board). I'd say there is also a pretty good chance we won't see Calvin Booth ever suit up.

My starting five on July 26 looks like a front line of Collins-Jefferson-Gomes, with Miller and Foye in the backcourt. Kevin Love and Corey Brewer would be my first off the bench, with Collins and either Gomes or Miller sitting, depending on the matchups. Then McCants and Telfair would be in the second wave, with Smith coming in for Jefferson along with Collins to beef up the front line. At crunchtime, I'd seriously consider Foye, McCants and Miller spreading the floor and giving Jefferson room to operate, with Collins, Love, Brewer or Gomes being among the choices for the fifth guy, again depending on the matchup. I'll try and remember to look back on this in mid-winter and read how silly (or less likely, prescient) that sounds.

Last but not least on the Wolves for now, while Vegas Summer League doesn't often mean anything, Brewer's inconsistency there is a slight cause for concern. It is amazing to me how much personality plays a role in how a player is regarded, more so sometimes than actual performance. You rarely, if ever, hear McCants mentioned by the front office, while the gushing for all the things Brewer supposedly brings to the table remains unabated. But all the talk in the world doesn't obscure that this is a crucial year for Brewer, who needs to demonstrate that he can parlay great defense against large swingmen like Paul Pierce into a reliable asset--a consistent, kamikaze pace-setter--*and* not be a Telfair-like nonfactor when scoring. If Bowen and Raja Bell truly are the templates, he's got to learn to stick an open jumper, and have a little nastiness besides. And please, no more Dennis Rodman comparisons. They are somewhat similar in the way they move their feet and try to make a catalytic effect without the ball, but Rodman also happened to be one of the top two or three rebounders in the game during his heyday.

Cubs and Brewers Fight For A Pennant

For the first time in my life, I went to Summerfest, Milwaukee's huge, 10-day music gathering out on the shore at the end of June through the 4th of July. It was a glorious time, as I saw at least a dozen bands in three days/nights that I would have ventured out to see headlining all by their lonesome, climaxing in a stupdenous show by The Roots, who are really featuring a tuba player now, and a guitarist who totally tears it up. It is a long way from when the dual rappers, ?uestlove (the second greatest rock timekeeper in history behind Charlie Watts) and the beatboxer, Raheim, ran the show. Jesse Helms had died just earlier that day, and ?uest gave him his due, noting that he'd vehemently opposed almost every bit of civil rights legislation ever enacted in this country, and finishing off the aside by saying "good riddance" and "rest in peace" in the same sentence. A half-hour later the band was pinwheeling their way through a massive, psychedelic rendition of Dylan's "Masters of War," which segued into Hendrix's "Machine Gun." Maybe my best 4th of July ever.

But I digress. What was particularly noticeable at Summerfest, from a sports standpoint, was the somewhat edgy and yet good-natured bristling that continually took place between fans of the Cubs and Brewers. In late March, I took the great 95-year old blues pianist Pinetop Perkins down from a gig a few miles north of Milwaukee to catch a plane in Chicago (I was writing a Pinetop profile for No Depression magazine) and it struck me how incredibly close these two cities are from each other. As an east coast resident, it reminded me of Baltimore and Washington, or, to a slightly lesser extent, the Boston/NY/Philly triplets. Officially I guess it is 90 miles, but it is a straight shot down the highway and if you press the metal you can go round-trip and spend an entire day at whichever one you are visiting. Vikings fans love to claim this huge rivalry with the Packers, for instance, but anyone who has ever lived near Green Bay tells me that the Bears are the rivalry that matters.

Anyway, when a Milwaukee DJ introduced the Chicago band Alkaline Trio and half-kiddingly tried to whip up a little Cubs-Brewers frisson, the hefty response he received was eye-opening. From that point on, I began to notice the plethora of both Cubs and Brewers clothing worn by the festival patrons. It was really pretty extraordinary. (And this prompts another digression about sports and Summerfair. The Milwaukee Bucks had a booth at the fest and Yi jerseys were going for $5! Of course Yi is now a New Jersey Net, but that fact makes the dirt-cheap Yi merchandise *more* desireable--I almost bought one, and why not; it costs labout the same as a slice of pizza or a brat. On the other hand, I am not aware of exactly how bad Yi underperformed for the Bucks last year, and whether he contributed to the mightly sense of ennui that wafted off that ballclub whenever I saw them play. I know the Wolves have deeply discounted Ricky Davis merchandise on the gift-shop side of their website, and I would buy a RD jersey for a plugged nickel to give to my worst enemy. The karmic juju would be too dangerous. Okay, back to the Cubs-Brewers.) The drunken yahoos that are the real unofficial logo for any of these big music confabs also enjoyed egging on their rivals, be they Cubs or Brewers fans, whenever there was a moment of quasi-silence in the prevailing din and crush of bodies.

Then, a few days after I came home, the Brewers acquired ace and reigning Cy Young Award winner CC Sabathia from Cleveland. A day later, the Cubs responded by filching Rich Harden from the A's. Harden is more injury-prone and less experienced in knowing how to pitch than is Sabathia, but the price the Cubs paid--no prime prospects or on-field starters--was far less than what the Brewers gave up, and the rest of the Cubs rotation is stronger than Milwaukee's sans CC.

For some reason I'm giddy over this. The Brewers started becoming one of my favorite teams when they brought up Rickie Weeks and Prince Fielder two or three years ago, and then Corey Hart and Ryan Braun. Once they had finally rid themselves of that gasbag Bud Selig and the rest of his dunderheaded family, they drafted and traded smartly and then, after bagging a new stadium, waited for the kids to come through. And now they have. Ben Sheets has stayed healthy enough to start this year's All Star game for the National League, and with Sabathia gives the Brewers a dual-ace top side to their rotation, one of the key ingredients for going far in the playoffs.

Sabathia has been phenomenal. A huge kid--large-boned, physically gifted and fat all at the same time--he's thrown three complete games in his four starts thus far for Milwaukee, with the Brewers winning all four while CC has yielded just 5 runs and struck out 31 (walking just 8) in 33 innings. Meanwhile, Harden likewise has been as good as advertised. He's fanned 30 batters in just 17 and 1/3 innings in his three starts, while surrendering a measly 8 hits and two runs over that span. The problem, however, is the 17 and 1/3 in three outings. As a power-oriented strikeout pitcher, Harden throws a lot of pitches, and as a chronically injured young hurler, the Cubs have been wise to limit his pitch counts. Unfortunately that makes him much less valuable than Sabathia--a complete game helps your entire pitching staff by resting your bullpen and thus not taxing your other starters should they need to be lifted. Today, for example, Harden gave up only two hits and one run while striking out ten (his fourth straight game in double digit K's), but the Cubs lost to Florida, 3-2 in extra innings. As gaudy as Harden's numbers were today, and as much fun as it is to watch him pitch, Chicago's bullpen still labored seven innings on a day when he was given the ball. By contrast, Sabathia has been relieved for a grand *total* of three innings in his four starts.

As even casual baseball fans know, the Cubs haven't won a championship in exactly 100 years, replacing the Red Sox as the quintessential underdog baseball franchise. I don't have much sympathy for their drought--Wrigley Field is a huge cash cow which the Cubs' various ownership groups have dutifully and increasingly milked in the past couple of decades. But with the feisty Carlos Zambrano (who got into fisticuffs with his catcher last year) as the rubber-armed ace, and Harden mixing in with former reliever Ryan Dempster and the sharp but risky fly-ball oriented lefty Ted Lilly in the middle of the rotation, rounded out by above-average journeyman Jason Marquis (and with 16-game winner Rich Hill still battling baffling control problems in the minors), the Cubs have a marvelous cadre of starters.

But the Brewers appear likely to give them a legitimate run for their money. Sheets and Sabathia make them dangerous in any short series (although Sabathia was terrible in his last post season appearances), and the rest of the rotation, while not on a par with the Cubs, isn't too shabby, with Dave Bush and the young lefty Manny Parra. (If only another talented youngster, Yovani Gallardo, hadn't gone down with a knee injury in May.)

The point is, neither the Cubs nor the Brewers (who last went to the World Series in 1982 and have never won it all, although the Milwaukee Braves turned the trick a mere 51 years ago behind Warren Spahn) are dynastic franchises. Both have occasionally spent (and overspent) to try and win, but are a long way from the Yankees and Red Sox. Both have long-suffering fan bases and a wonderful collection of players on their respective rosters. I think they are the two best teams in the National League and wouldn't be surprised to see them in the NL Championship series in October. Just thinking about Zambrano versus Sabathia and Harden versus Sheets, with hitters like Fielder and Braun for Milwaukee and Derek Lee and Aramis Ramirez for the Cubs working for runs...It's enough to make a hoops freak patient before the opening tap of the 2008-09 NBA season in November.

 

29 Reader Comments

Captain America (not verified)06:47pm
Jul 26
Wolves -- It usually takes a pure point guard a few seasons to reach their prime, so Bassy is still growing in my opinion. Add to that the fact that Bassy started out of high school and that he had to adjust to a new system under the Wolves last year. All I'm expecting (hoping for) from Jason Collins is defending the rim and being a complementary player (that is second nature for him). I like the pairing of Brewer-Love off the pine. Bucket up! Corey will be on the receiving end of some missiles launched by Love. I didn't know that Kevin Love has a middle name barrowed from Wes Unseld (who was also undersized). Kevin's middle name is Wesley. Wes Unseld could flat out play and is the seventh ranked rebounded in the HOF. Baseball -- Looking forward to the critical Cubs-Brewers series. With Soriano back in Left, this promises to be a real battle.
Dave T (not verified)07:11pm
Jul 28
The Brewers-Cubs contest for the NL Central has been fun to watch. I agree with you that the owners of both clubs are finally spending enough money wisely to put competitive teams on the field. I think CC Sabathia will lead the Brewers to the NL pennant.
Andy G (not verified)08:40pm
Jul 26
If we don't make anymore trades, I think we'll open with: Foye Miller Gomes Love Jefferson. I hope the lineup becomes: Telfair Foye Gomes or Brewer Love Jefferson I don't think they want to entertain the idea that they traded away the third pick for a backup power forward, even at the beginning of the season. Love looks ready to roll and they would rather entertain the same idea as last year that Jefferson can play center. However, Love should be out there with Brewer and Telfair whenever possible, since those players would enjoy an up-tempo game.
PMAC (not verified)09:05pm
Jul 26
Yeah, I dont think Love will be coming off the bench, at least not for very long. And McCants has to be the first one off the bench if he's not starting, He wasn't happy with his 6th man role, I doubt being the 8th man would make him any happier. I like your day 1 starting lineup Britt but for myself am hoping it eventually turns into something more like this Foye Miller Gomes Love Jefferson and second team Telfair McCants Brewer Rhino Collins The starting lineup would be pretty big except for our center Big Al, but having a size advantage at most other positions would even things out a bit. The second stringers then would be quick and energetic, exactly what you want from your bench.
caerochren (not verified)07:42pm
Jul 27
I think a line-up featuring Jefferson and Love up front is going to be terrible. Presumably they'll do ok on offense, but the defense is going to be brutal. They are both undersized at PF (Jefferson less so than Love), they couple that lack of height by both being slow and non-explosive athletes. Whoever guards the opposing 5 will be overpowered while the player guarding the opposing 4 will be out-quicked - and probably overpowered. Signing Craig Smith made no sense to me, he is just another (even smaller!) PF who can play on only one side of the court (and like Jefferson is only effective as a scorer not as a passer). We'll see. I just am not an advocate of bringing back the core (or all) FA players of the 3rd worst team in the NBA.
pagingstanleyroberts (not verified)10:01pm
Jul 27
You're entitled to the pessimism, but here are some counterpoints. First, their time together will be limited. Jefferson played 36 mins/game last year and probably will be around that number next year. That means that Love will be on the floor for the other 12 minutes plus however many they play him, which would probably be 12-18 minutes they'd be together on the floor. As for them both being "slow" and "non-explosive," they're at least average and probably better. Love's as quick and explosive as Al Horford, and Jefferson isn't slow for a PF. Just because he uses more traditional post moves doesn't mean he can't go by people. He also destroyed Amare Stoudemire last year, one of those "freakishly" athletic players. It's not just the opinion of the Wolves FO but of other people in the league that while they might be average to below average defensively, they'll be good to very good offensively. Both are very skilled at that end and have complementary skills. As for the free agency strategy, your argument is too simplistic. The team is substantially different (and I think better) now than it was at the end of the season, and the team didn't have cap space to go after the big fish anyway. The top FAs like Elton Brand, Josh Smith, and Baron Davis aren't necessarily winning players, either; Brand and Smith have each been to the playoffs once in their careers. The guys they re-signed aren't going to be playing as much as they did last year, so it's not like it's the same team.
Stop-n-Pop (not verified)12:16am
Jul 28
Just to add a little bit to the minutes comment, Wim (another commenter here and at Hoopus) has a pretty interesting way of breaking down lineups by minutes. It's something that everyone should do when thinking about how this group of players will work together. At the 4/5 you could see a breakdown like this: 4- Love (20), Smith (18), Jefferson, (10) 5- Jefferson (26), Collins (12), Love (10) All in all, Jefferson would end up with 36 minutes, Love would get 30, Smith 18, and Collins 12. Just remember that there are 240 player minutes in a game and that each position gets 48 minutes. It will be interesting to see how the Wolves work the 2/3 this year. Foye and Bassy should split time at the 1 (28 for Bassy; 20 for Foye), but the 2/3 has Brewer, McCants, Carney, Miller, and Gomes all vying for time. That's 96 minutes of time for 5 players. Miller gets the start and at least 30 minutes. Gomes probably gets the other start and 30 minutes of his own. That leaves 36 minutes between 3 players in two positions. How will it work? 1- Bassy (28), Foye (20) 2- Miller (20), McCants, (20), Brewer (8) 3- Gomes, (30), Miller (10), Brewer (8) As you can see, Carney...well, there's going to be a log jam at the 2/3 if they don't move someone before the season starts. As for the front court... Whether this means Love/Collins gets burn for 12 minutes while Jefferson/Smith goes for 18, or Collins and Smith take some minutes together, the lineup can be manipulated to a) get minutes for everybody involved, and b) do so in a way that won't open up too many defensive holes should they arise. The thing that people need to remember with Love and Jefferson at the 4/5 is that they should be better defensively than the Gomes/Jefferson duo that we had to watch for most of the year. That should be worth 2 pts on the DRtg. While I know it's a long shot, I'm hoping and praying that the Wolves figure out a way to land Josh Smith. I have been on that bandwagon for a while now and I remember pimping him here earlier in the year. If ever there was a 3 to put in this line up to compliment a Foye/McCants back court and a Love/Jefferson front court, it's Josh Smith. I think there is about a 0.00009% of this happening, but with all the talk about Smith's contract, I'm still hoping that the Wolves can land what I think will be the best free agent in this off season.
Andy G (not verified)10:16am
Jul 28
The logjam at wing is even worse if Foye plays minutes at shooting guard, which I think he will. My guess is that he'll average the most minutes out of everybody on the team, if healthy. He'll probably be our best all-around guard if he regains the hop in his step that he had during his healthy rookie season. I don't think he's a pure point, but if Telfair is the only other one on the roster, he'll have to play it for some of the game.
stop-n-pop (not verified)11:06am
Jul 28
It's one thing to stockpile young players, it's quite another to get them all playing time. I have zero idea about how they are going to make the 2/3 slots on this roster work. I purposefully left Foye out of the 2 spot just to show how hard it will be to get guys minutes. I get that part of the "plan" for free agency is to have a bunch of small, movable contracts, but these guys have to get some minutes. Let's say that the 3 new signees get time; let's also assume that Carney gets some burn. What does that rotation look like? 1- Foye (30), Bassy (18) (pray that Foye and/or Bassy don't get injured) 2- Miller (25), McCants (20), Brewer (3) 3- Gomes (20), Miller (10), Brewer (10), Carney (8) 4- Love (20), Jefferson (16), Gomes (5), Smith (7) 5- Jefferson (20), Collins (15), Love (13) Totals: Foye: 30 Miller: 35 Gomes: 25 Love: 33 Jefferson: 36 McCants: 20 Bassy: 18 Collins: 15 Brewer: 13 Carney: 8 Smith: 7 Outside of the initial absurdity of running an 11 man rotation, how on earth is some of this young talent going to develop with either roller coaster minutes or sub-20/game? I'm sure Shaddy will be *thrilled* with 20 minutes a game. If they want to get this thing close to a functional 8 man rotation, Smith shouldn't see the court, Carney or Brewer will have to have a death match of their own, and the Foye/Shaddy death match will have to be settled once and for all. If I had my druthers with this squad (which I don't), I'd roll with this: 1- Bassy (35), McCants (13) (hope and pray, hope and pray) 2- Miller (20), McCants (18), Brewer (10) 3- Gomes (20), Miller (10), Brewer (18) 4- Love (20), Jefferson (16), Gomes (12) 5- Jefferson (20), Collins (18), Love (10) Totals: Jefferson: 36 Bassy: 35 Gomes: 32 McCants: 31 Miller: 30 Love: 30 Brewer: 28 Collins: 18 8 man rotation without Foye and Carney. I guess I've kind of tipped my hand as to who I think should win the death matches. I'm really hoping the Wovles can find a way to move Foye, Carney, and Cardinal's deal for an expiring contract (Eric Snow please) to thin out the rotation and provide a ton of cap space in 2009. There, that's the official start of my Trade Foye pitch. :) He has the most value on this squad to be able to move Cardinal's deal and he's not as good a 2 guard as Shaddy. It will probably happen when pigs fly, but oh well.
Andy G (not verified)11:33am
Jul 28
I wouldn't be against trading any player on our team if they are overvalued, but I'm not sure what we could get for Foye after he struggled with his injury last year. He'll be better with a full off-season of conditioning. As much as I enjoy watching Shaddy light it up off the bench, he's not a starter. He has bad defensive instincts and gets mentally removed from the game at a much too high frequency. That said, 10-15 easy points off the bench is worth something, so I hope we don't give him away for nothing.
stop-n-pop (not verified)11:45am
Jul 28
The way I look at it is that if the Wolves move Foye + Cardinal's deal for an expiring contract (a'la Eric Snow), and they decline Carney's 2009 option, they clear over $12 mil off the books for a 2009 free agent run. They then hope and pray that Deng signs a 1 year tender with the Bulls and give him everything he wants in 2009 free agency after trading every available asset for one of the top point/combos in the draft (Rubio, Calathes, Evans, Jennings). They use the rest of the free agent money for re-signings and Pekovic and enter 2010 with this: 1- Bassy/(R/C/E/J) 2- Miller/McCants/(R/C/E/J) 3- Deng/Gomes/Brewer 4- Jefferson/Love 5- Pekovic/Jefferson/Love If they can swing a cap-clearing deal with McCants instead of Foye, so be it, but they'll have a chance to be one of the main players in next year's free agency if they can move Cardinal's contract and decide who makes it through the dual death matches: Foye or Shaddy and Carney or Brewer.
Andy G (not verified)11:51am
Jul 28
If they can turn Foye into Deng and Rubio, I'm on board.
stop-n-pop (not verified)11:55am
Jul 28
It's a little silly, I know, but even something like Granger and Evans would probably be worthwhile. I just like tossing off ideas in the off season. I think the main point here is that moving Cardinal's deal early would be a huge boon to the organization. BTW: We're trying to figure it out over at Hoopus, but there is a temp restriction on trading a player you received in a trade. It's the big speed bump in moving Cardinal. If any of you know the specifics about this, please let me know.
Andy G (not verified)01:53pm
Jul 28
I'm not sure, but I've heard something about that as well. It might say something on the espn.com trade machine.
stop-n-pop (not verified)02:04pm
Jul 28
I found it. Thanks to a long and mind numbing tele-comp-conference call, I was able to read through the mind numbing salary cap FAQ on the subject. There is a 2 month window where Cardinal would have to be traded by himself if he were to be moved. There is an exception: the Wolves could arrange a non-simultaneous trade with a team like Cleveland and Cardinal could be included in the 2nd 1/2 of the trade with another player. It would be very complicated. Both Carney and Cardinal have to wait 2 months before they can be included in a package deal.
secretarykissinger (not verified)01:52am
Jul 29
Super interesting analysis, my hat is tipped to the numbers guys here. Another season of the Foye-Shad death match is going to be hard to stomach; its paralyzing in terms of building a team mentality and seems certain to produce bad mojo as long as it continues. Making some decisions on this front seems imperative but it's going to take some courage to choose a direction. Meanwhile, given past performance, without some court time neither is going to sell themselves to other suitors. And I hate to say it, for all the reasons most of us share for enjoying Brewer's gusto, but he's not making much of a case for getting minutes with this squeeze on. How awful would it be to ship him down to the d-league for seasoning/skills building? It would buy some time to test out other configurations, and provide a little minutes flexibility while he's in escrow. Is it even conceivable, politically or strategically?
midlife crisis (not verified)07:08am
Jul 29
Last years deep draft looks like it was three deep for sure things, then a bunch of luck. I don't know how long you wait on Brewer before you call him a bust, but he seems to have few offensive skills and will be completely stuck behind Miller. With Gomes also sharing minutes at SF, that's Brewer trying to get minutes from 2 of our 3 best players. Unfortunately, the McCants Foye death match is at SG. The only spot I can see Brewer playing is SG when Foye is at PG at Miller and Love (probably our best two front court passers) are both in the game to cover Foye's weaknesses. That doesn't seem like very many minutes at all and Brewer may well be on his way to the end of the bench.
pagingstanleyroberts (not verified)03:26pm
Jul 28
I agree with the premise that we have too many young players to try out. The thing that I differ on is rotation size. A 9-player rotation works better for the regular season in order to get more guys involved and ready in case injuries hit. I do think, though, that it's a good idea to have that group fairly set. Related to that, the 10th-12th players in the rotation have to be the type of players who can accept that they won't play in every game. I think Smith might fit into that 10th slot if he can accept that, but it's usually a veteran. Then, the 11th-12th guys are more specialists (point guards, big centers, 3-pt shooters). However, I don't have a solution for who those 9 guys would be or who should start. If the following guys are still on the roster and healthy on opening night, my idea would be: 30+ min: Jefferson, Foye, Miller 20-30 min: Gomes, McCants, Love, Telfair, Brewer 10-20 min: Collins or Booth 0-15 min: Smith, Carney, 12th man They have two guys who will likely play one position: PG (Telfair) and C (Collins or Booth). Foye (1/2), Gomes (3/4), and Love (4/5) play multiple positions. McCants, Miller, and Brewer could both swing between 2/3. However, I'm with SnP regarding a deal that upgrades the talent level while reducing the overall number of players on the roster. Better to do that than cut someone.
b (not verified)09:19pm
Jul 26
Brit, Can you help me understand the Craig Smith signing? I was really confused when he was resigned not to mention resigned before Gomes and Telfair. When the Wolves pulled the Miller+Love for Mayo deal I thought there wasn't much room for Smith even if Gomes wasn't brought back. McHale has said that there are probably a few guys going to the D-League. Is Smith a big candidate for that? I know Richard is, but would they put Smith down there after signing him to a 2 year deal? I can't construct a good explanation for signing Smith. I agree with you about Telfair being the big suprise. One of the things I enjoyed watching last year was Bassy's game developing and even seeing some decent jump-shooting games from him before he went down. I have a sneaking suspicion that we're going to see a lot more of the small ball lineups you loathe, Brit, but I think it is going to be fun to see lineups like Telfair, Foye, Miller, Love, and Jefferson as well as Telfair working with guys like Brewer and Carney to push the tempo along with Love's freakish outlet passing.
Levi (not verified)09:59pm
Jul 26
NBA players are eligible to be sent to the D-League only in their first or second years. The Timberwolves are affiliated with the Sioux Falls Skyforce, partnered with Charlotte.
Stop-n-Pop (not verified)05:49pm
Jul 27
They also brought in the Skyforce's coach to help out with Summer League.
stop-n-pop (not verified)09:29am
Jul 27
I'm very happy that the Wolves locked up Bassy. I think you nailed it about him being one of the biggest surprises this year. As I've said for quite a while: he's 3-5% on his j away from being an upper-level starting point in this league. He's still very young and I'm very happy he chose to stay here. Plus, I'm happy that the team kept my favorite player. Looking forward to free agency (in 2009, not 2010 where they'll get lost in the shuffle), I think it's becoming more and more obvious that they are pairing players to see who can perform and who cannot: McCants v. Foye, Richard v. Smith, and Brewer v. Carney. All of these players come on the cheap and with relatively short deals that can be moved a'la Philly for last-minute cap space. Most of these players also have options for the 2009 season; the team could simply choose not to sign 1 or 2 of them and open up something in the neighborhood of $6 mil (Carney + Foye gets you to $6 mil in saved 2009 cap money). Right now they are sitting at $52.5 mil in 2009 cap space. If they can clear their way down to 43-45, they're major players for top flight free agents (I like Hedo or Deng if they're around) + a full MLE (let's get Pryz back here). We should get a good idea of whether or not Foye and McCants can be on the same team; whether Carney can give you what Brewer cannot; and which 2nd round pick can provide 20 minutes off the bench: Smith or Richard. Ideally, this year I'd like to see the Wolves decide between Foye and McCants (ideally McCants), Carney and Brewer (no preference right now), and find a way to move Cardinal's deal for an expiring contract (Cardinal + Foye or McCants to Cleveland for Eric Snow would be ideal) and walk into the 2009 free agent season with about $18 mil in pre-draft cap space. I think the ideal starting lineup for this team is: Bassy McCants Miller Love Jefferson I'd like to see them hold on to as many draft picks as possible and take a run at the best point or scoring wing in next year's draft (Demar Derozan, Tyreke Evans, Nick Calathes, Ricky Rubio, etc). They can then fold their cap space into whatever they can't fill in the draft + an MLE on a backup center like Pryz or Frye. Ideally, they get a guard in the draft and go after someone like Martell Webster, Danny Granger, or Hedo with their free agnet money. Whatever happens, I think this year is the year where they decide who becomes a movable asset in their maneuvering for 2009 free agency and the draft.
anton (not verified)12:51pm
Jul 27
I was also happy about keeping Telfair. I think just about everyone who follows the Wolves was surprised by the re-signing of all of our role players (including possibly Richard). My only caveat - while he's the closest thing we have to a true PG, his ability to knock down a jumper means we're spinning our wheels on the spacing front. I know that Miller and Love will give more room for Al to operate, but their defenders aren't going to be doubling - Bassy's defender will. To me, the biggest improvement the Wolves have made is in b-ball IQ. Miller and Love both have an excellent grasp of "team basketball" - if there's such thing as a star-caliber glue guy, it's Mike Miller, and I'm hoping Love turns out the same. They're also both excellent rebounders at their positions - if the Wolves can get out and contest shots, we should be in good shape on the glass. Also, I feel like I mention this every year, but Love is a rookie and I think we all could save ourselves some heartbreak by tempering our expectations. He will throw any outlet passes to the opposition, and will go through growing pains like any rook. Also, correct me if I'm wrong, but I seem to remember KG being an excellent outlet passer in his first few years in the league, but eventually he just sorta stopped throwing them...true? That said, I think our starting lineup will be: Foye McCants Miller Jefferson Collins (possibly Love at the PF against teams w/o a true C) I certainly could see McCants replaced with Gomes, though I'd worry about the offense getting a bit stagnant - if Gomes can come through and knock down shots (and Al can pass out of doubleteams more effectively), then it's not so bad. If we're more serious about running: Smith, Love, Brewer, McCants, and Telfair could really change the pace. I still think our best lineup would be Al + 4 shooters (aka no Bassy or Brewer), but I can't see us using that too often for defensive matchup reasons, Last note: I have to admit I'm concerned about the possibility of mid-level players (aka "underpaid" starters) heading abroad in the next few years. I know Childress is just a drop in the bucket, but he's the type of "little things" player that basketball absolutely needs to produce quality games. The NBA has been picking off European players for awhile now, so I suppose turnabout is fair play. There's no way the player's union agrees to restricted player movement, and there's no way a for-profit NBA can compete against both a declining dollar and a largely unprofitable European league. (From my understanding, those teams are financed by magnates who are not concerned about sinking money into sports teams.)
Pants (not verified)10:52pm
Jul 27
"Vikings fans love to claim this huge rivalry with the Packers, for instance, but anyone who has ever lived near Green Bay tells me that the Bears are the rivalry that matters." Boy that grinds my gears. The most bitter rivalries are the ones were the opposing fans deal with each other on a day-to-day basis. As you note Chicago and Milwaukee are very close so fans from those two metros are a hop, skip and a jump from each other. Ofcourse people on that side of the state are going to feel that way. full disclosure -- after going to college in Western WI this is an open wound that all the guys who were coming from Eastern WI loved to rub salt in. Harkens back to the ole... "I wasn't trying anyway" after you won a game in elementary/middle school tactic that is always infuriating.
Zekeman10 (not verified)01:05pm
Jul 28
Sorry to go football on a mostly basketball and baseball column, but the Packers-Bears rivalry is bigger than the Packers-Vikings rivalry. Having grown up in GB during and after after the SB years in the late 60's (for Viking fans SB means Super Bowl), and having lived in MSP for 30+ years now - - people around here like to think the Pack-Vike rivalry is bigger, but it just isn't the case. It's big, but not as big as Packers-Bears. Anyone living here (only) will disagree, but that's the deal.
JPFnotJPK (not verified)02:34pm
Jul 28
Cute, Pack fan. Cute. But you're wrong. SB means Soup or Bowl. Duh.
Jim (not verified)01:45pm
Jul 29
Wolves — I don't get the Craig Smith resigning and think it's almost bizarre McHale's talking about bringing back Richard, too. They both seem like good guys but how many undersized and/or one dimensional players do you need? I'm interested to learn what you guys think of the hypothesis that McHale subconsciously values Smith/Richard as much for being somewhat/possible bright spots on his dismal second round draft record than for what they can offer the Wolves his year. Unless another trade happens, I don't get the love affair with last year's role players. Baseball — It's hard to give a team that hasn't reached the playoffs in two decades a ton of credit, but that's exactly what the Brewers deserve for having the balls/desire to win to get Sabathia. Could they make a play to lock him up long term? I don't get why not, the team has been drawing very well this year and has a new stadium. At any rate, it's hard to see the Twins Ever making a move as bold as the Sabathia deal and I hope it works out for Milwaukee's fans.
Anonymous (not verified)03:44pm
Jul 30
The Cardinals are better than both the Cubs and the Brewers. They have been without their two best starters virtually all season and would have the best record in baseball if not for a major league leading amount of blown saves.
SettlingForJumpers (not verified)07:32am
Aug 3
I'm thrilled that Bassy will be back in a Wolves uni. And I think the additions of Miller and Love seem like the perfect pieces to compliment Bassy's skillset. In truth, if he made about 20 more buckets over the entire season, he would have been a 44% shooter. So, to a degree, his shooting deficiencies are a bit overstated. Also, I think he may not have gotten enough credit for averaging 6 assists per game on a team where Ryan Gomes was arguably the most consistent outside shooter. To have that kind of assist average and an A/TO of 3 to 1 on what was one of the league's worst perimeter teams indicates superb decision-making on a consistent basis. But perception is reality and defenses helped off him, which made it tough--especially in crunch time. But with more perimeter threats (Love and Miller) and another force in the paint (assuming Love can step in right away), I think we'll see Bassy's passing ability on full display and we'll also see him getting cleaner lay-up attempts, which could lead to more trips to the line. I'm hoping that he's working as much on his floater this summer as he is his jumper, which did improve over the course of the season and from the previous seasons. Given the fact that he's already a better defender, pace-setter, floor general, decision-maker, penetrator and passer than Foye, he's about .6 of point per game away from being a hands-down better player. Bassy probably knows it, and that's why I think he was so eager to return.

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